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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:44 PM
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Poll question: If Edwards is nominated, I will vote for...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:47 PM
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1. Harold Brown
or Vermin Supreme
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:48 PM
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2. Other
I'm Ham Sandwich (D) all the way after the primaries!!! WhooHoo! I'm so (yawn) excited!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:53 PM
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3. Ok, who voted for the chimp?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:53 PM
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38. Lurking freepers n/t
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AndyP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:59 PM
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4. just tell me
when and where and who to vote for and I'm there!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:03 PM
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5. Anyone who didn't say Edwards is a:
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 10:05 PM by HypnoToad
1> Traitor
2> Selfish prick who doesn't care about getting Bush* out of power
3> Supporter and friend of Bush*
4> All of the above

Surely "the lesser of two evils" is ANYBODY nominated who isn't Bush*? How could any of them, except Nader, be worse?

Nader is nothing more than burnt toast shavings...

Edit: Sorry to be harsh, but polls like this damningly prove there is a relevant "NB_" problem that is equal to or far surpasses the Green party problem... though a minor one, it could still be enough to help * win.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:06 PM
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7. Pfft
You get the ham sandwich in office with your prick comment.

Are you sure you're not the black guardian?????
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:04 PM
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6. Why is it that no one bitches about "loyalty oaths" when the person
in question is Edwards?

Just curious - I'm still undecided between Edwards and Kerry.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:08 PM
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9. This isn't a "loyalty oath."
It's simply an indicator of how DUers feel about Edwards.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:10 PM
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10. Exactly. It's no different than the polls about Kerry or Clark that many
people bitched constantly about.

That was my point. The others weren't loyalty oaths, either.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:13 PM
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11. My feelings: those who complain should hide the thread.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:17 PM
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14. Obviously, you're missing my point.
By now, any poll with these exact same choices, but with Kerry's name (or Clark's name before he dropped out), would be flooded with "I'm voting third party" or "I just don't trust him" posts, primarily from Dean supporters.

Edwards obviously doesn't draw the same kind of ire, and that's a good thing.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:43 PM
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22. Hmmmm
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 11:44 PM by IAmJacksSmirkingReve
When one of those polls that you're talking about pops up once every two hours, that's what people complain about. This is exactly ONE thread.

Never mind that you have selectively forgotten the fact that those threads in question were directed at Dean supporters...but go back to your fantasy world, I'm sure it's much nicer there.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:07 PM
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8. Edwards will make a fine President
and I will be happy to vote for him in November.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:06 PM
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17. Ya know, I hear a lot of that.
Thanks. For all the tussling of the past, the most frustrating moments--and the ones that elicited the tartest responses from me--were the ones when I thought you were being unreasonable. You are, in essence, a sensible person, and moments like this confirm that.

I hope this isn't sounding condescending; it wasn't meant to be.

The point of my response is that I've heard this from many people, and it reassures me that he's connecting on many levels with all sorts of people. We're all mixed bags and ciphers of our past, but of the subset of people who could get into the position of actually getting elected President, this guy's about as good as it gets.

Truly, this is the season of dashed hopes, as many have fallen in love with candidates, seen rises and hopes being fulfilled, just to see them taken from their grasp. With a bit of good fortune and the whim of the media and the moment, we might actually get a break here.

It could be a watershed moment, and this could usher in an era of decency in this country. Were we to take the House as well as the Presidency, the resultant discoveries about just how ugly the monarchists have been of late may well marginalize them into remission. Still, it could easily blow the other way, and if we lose in the fall, a truly dark age may befall us for years to come.

You've been chiming in on the subject quite a bit of late, and I truly appreciate that; you are one of the core posters of this board, and that means a lot.

(Doncha just thirst for a series of debates between him and the Connecticut Cowboy?)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:17 PM
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19. A lot of people are not even aware that Bush is a Connecticut transplant
and that he pretends to be a Texas rancher.

President Johnson was a true Texan and he had a real ranch.

Edwards connected when he spoke against legacy admissions, a pet peeve of mine.

I enjoy listening to Edwards, while Kerry can never give a straight answer to anything. Edwards nailed him when he said that Kerry's answer was the longest answer he ever heard on a "Yes" "No" question.

Kerry makes Bush a sympathetic character!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:47 AM
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34. Just read this by Nick Lemann, and thought it might be relevant here:
American populism operates more by a logic of culture and background than by a logic of present-day circumstances. In the 2000 campaign, in which two sons of prominent officeholders, educated at prep schools and Ivy League colleges, were pitted against each other, Bush succeeded in putting himself across as the populist and Gore as the élitist. (Though it seems counterintuitive, in recent years Republicans and conservatives have resorted more freely to populism than Democrats and liberals have.) Edwards is better off financially than either Bush or Gore, but somehow, because of a combination of background and presentation skills, against him either of them would look like the country-club guy.

http://blog.johnedwards2004.com/comments.pl?sid=2432&op=&newsid=04/02/22/2258208&threshold=0&commentsort=1&mode=nested&cid=100444
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:14 PM
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12. Happily, I will vote for Edwards.
He'd be a definite two-termer. Something just tells me this.

Imagine the young appointees he'd put-up. Uber-liberals in their 30's who are planning to spend the rest of their long, long lives on the high court's bench. That'd be so friggin' awesome!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:14 PM
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13. Bush! Because Edwards is no different.
Just Kidding. I'd vote for any Democrat over the Chimp.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:39 PM
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15. I might sit this election out.
I would be profoundly disappointed if Edwards were nominated. I would feel completely alienated not only from my fellow Americans but from my fellow Democrats.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:45 PM
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16. Reminder, before you answer
"Can I just go back a moment ago -- to a question you asked just a moment ago? You asked, I believe, Senator Kerry earlier whether there's an exaggeration of the threat of the war on terrorism.
"It's just hard for me to see how you can say there's an exaggeration when thousands of people lost their lives on September the 11th."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/transcripts/debatetranscript29.html

MATTHEWS: OK. I just want to get one thing straight so that we know how you would have been different in president if you had been in office the last four years as president. Would you have gone to Afghanistan?
EDWARDS: I would.
MATTHEWS: Would you have gone to Iraq?
EDWARDS: I would have gone to Iraq.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3131295/

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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:20 PM
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20. Same link, same question -- Edwards: "Don’t misunderstand me."
EDWARDS: I don’t think I would have approached it the way this president did. I don’t think--See I think what happened, if you remember back historically, remember I had an up or down vote. I stand behind it. Don’t misunderstand me.
MATTHEWS: Right.
EDWARDS: I stand behind it. But if I were president of the United States, instead of going to the United Nations as an afterthought, which is how this president did it-- If I had been president of the United States, I would have been building the case over a long period of time, bringing an international pressure on Saddam Hussein.
I think the result of the way he built up to this war was he made it virtually impossible to get United Nations support.

- - - - -
The Iraq scenario with Edwards is quite different that the unilateral invasion with by the * administration. Edwards has been repeatedly clear in denouncing the unilateral invasion. In fact, it's possible that there would have been no invasion at all under Edwards, with a proper UN international coalition at hand.

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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:39 PM
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21. What was he going to to when they said "No"?
"I think we couldn’t let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage."

That's what.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:11 PM
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18. Edwards, with ease.
Good man, good candidate, puts fear in the collective heart of the GOP.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:43 PM
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23. What difference does it make?
Two versions of the same coin. Edwards/Kerry ...nither one had the balls to stand up when it counted. Nothing will change under either of them... four more years of america sold to the highest bidder.

Kucinich and Nader are the only true voices of change left in this election not that I agree with either of them on everything. but they arent influence pedlers like Kerry and Edwards.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:45 PM
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24. Edwards
n/t
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:21 AM
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25. Edwards by the time AP is done with me
His anti-NAFTA history will make the bitter IWR pill go down easier.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:46 PM
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35. AP is very, very convincing.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:52 AM
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26. reluctantly,
I'll vote for the Peanut Butter Samich (I). Better for your health than ham.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:17 AM
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27. If it must be vegetarian
I'm Nobody But Falafel (I).
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:25 AM
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28. reluctantly,
I'm changing candidates! Falafel Sandwich (I) 2004. If we can get the word out on Falafel (I) election will be wrapped up and in Falafel's pocket in no time. And with a running mate like Humous, this ticket can't be beat!
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:30 AM
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29. It's a plan
Tomorrow I will make a $5.00 donation towards the election of Falafel, and spend my lunchtime chewing over his (her?) campaign.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 02:28 AM
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30. What states can Hummus win that Falafel Sandwich cant?
I think we need Baba Ghanouj instead if we want to play the states game.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:04 AM
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31. Edwards is a much lesser evil than Kerry who is a slightly lesser evil
than Bush.

Edwards would have my vote instantly. Kerry has to work at it. Bush forget it.

Nader? Hmmm. I'll think about it.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 04:00 PM
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40. because Edwards has a more liberal voting rec...
oh wait. n/m.

:eyes:

ABK baffles me.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:22 AM
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32. ABB all the way
Whoever gets the nomination gets my vote.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:32 AM
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33. Edwards
of course.
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Goldberg Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:47 PM
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36. Edwards all the way.
Forget Kerry.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:49 PM
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37. Edwards is just alright with me!
I'd have no problems pulling the lever for him.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 03:58 PM
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39. I'd vote for Bush.
j/k

I'm ABB. Kerry is my #1, but Edwards is 100000000000000000000000000000000000000x better than the idiot sitting in the WH now.
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