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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:38 PM
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Will Edwards get the nod??
I know Kerry is frontrunner for the moment, but there's just something about Edwards' charisma that makes me think he'll ultimately squeak by Kerry.

I definitely can see John spanking the $hrub come November, can't you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:39 PM
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:40 PM
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2. Nope, and thank God...


He would get crushed.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:40 PM
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3. Yes.
We're working on it! :)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM
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4. George Steph said don't bet the house, but it's possible.
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 08:43 PM by AP
I think it's a distinct possibitlity.

If he does it, he'll definitely beat Bush.

To come from behind and take Kerry, Edwards would have to be one of the best campaigners in the history of politics. And that's what we need to beat Bush.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:52 PM
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14. OMG we actually agree on something
I need to check my temperature.

If indeed, Edwards is able to come up from behind and slam Kerry to the wall, then he will prove that he is a master campaigner, with the ability to sway the public over to his camp. If he does that, then yes, he will have proved his ability to take it all the way.

For the record, he'd be a FINE president, and I'd be so proud to have that southern gentleman representing us. Sure would be a stark contrast from the southern baboon we have in office now.

Wouldn't it be nice to show the rest of the world that all men with drawls aren't ass monkeys?
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:43 PM
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25. If he pulls ahead of Kerry
he will owe it to the corporate media taking Kerry down. Since they've been building Edwards up (not attacking him), in no way does that prove his ability to take it all the way.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 09:27 AM
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39. Now why would you say that
Before Iowa, the corporate media, wouldn't even put the words John Edwards in their mouth, they led the country to think Edwards was as far back in the pack as Dennis and Sharpton, the media should be forced to apologies to the citizens of this nation, on Dean and Edwards!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:16 AM
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32. I'm right about things more often than you know.
:)
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:25 AM
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36. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, shall we?
Just because I toss a bone, doesn't mean the entire carcass comes with it.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM
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5. Nice guy
who'll finish second.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM
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6. No and No.
I see mincemeat if Edwards gets the nomination.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:58 PM
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18. That's the spirit.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:41 PM
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24. Sorry, just answering the questions.
I'd vote for him if he were to get it, I'd even send money and actively campaign for him. I'm ABB all the way, I just think the Mean Machine will tear him up in the GE. He has too many holes that just being charming will not cover up.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 10:54 PM
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26. No problem.
I feel the same way about Kerry, but I hope we're both just being paranoid.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 01:06 AM
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34. Agreed. I hope so too.
:toast:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM
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7. I think either could beat Dumbya
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 08:43 PM by quinnox
He is falling apart badly.

A friend of mine agrees with you, he thinks Edwards is going to come from behind and best Kerry. I don't think so myself, but I don't totally discount the possibility. It's a real long shot though.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM
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8. Not according to Vegas. nt
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 05:50 AM
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35. Uh, no political wagering in Las Vegas
Sports only, sad to report. I see at least one goof per week who marches up to the sportsbook counter and tries to bet on politics, the Academy Awards, etc.

Offshore, John Kerry is a huge favorite to claim the nomination, along the lines of 1/15. Some offshore books have even taken the prop off the board, assessing it akin to short term, no-risk 6.5% interest.

Minus winner take all, the math simply does not add up for our best candidate, John Edwards. We figured it out four weeks too late, and I'm going to sleepless and sick for the duration.

Despite the giddy polls, BTW, the Republican ticket is still 5/8 favorite to retain the White House.

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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:43 PM
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9. I hope so> Likeability = electability
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:47 PM
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12. Getting > votes = electability.
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 08:49 PM by Kerryfan
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:54 PM
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15. Yes, and when we're past 25% of the voters...
Edwards will have them. :)
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:01 PM
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19. likeability=getting independent votes and winning the GE.
n/t
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:46 PM
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10. If he does I'll support him. I think Kerry has a better chance.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:47 PM
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11. Nope, not without a LOT of liquor in me
and I don't drink a lot of liquor.

I am condfident that if Kerry gets nominated, that he will kick the elephant shit out of Dubya, but if Edwards gets nominated, the donkey crap will be flying hard and fast.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:51 PM
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13. I am confident in both for the GE.
Edited on Sun Feb-22-04 08:52 PM by leyton
I think Kerry will probably get the nomination.

As for the GE - I have confidence in them both, and I think that Kerry has the edge on credibility and on national security (or at least they're even on national security) over bush but Edwards is more exciting than Kerry or Bush.

Edit: The media loves Edwards. He is their darling because he rose so fast and his story is just so perfect. If he gets the nomination, I would expect a ton of coverage about this comeback kid who always beats expectations.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:54 PM
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16. Both Edwards AND Kerry beat Bush if Nader stays out of swing states
But Kerry is more liberal, at least somewhat.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 08:55 PM
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17. If the party can break with tradition and scrape up a scrap of sense
He's literally the best candidate this party's had in forty years; throwing it away, although characteristic of the party, would be stupid.

It alarms me that he's not at least making some kind of personal effort in Idaho and Utah, since he's got great appeal to rural voters, but I can understand his gamble on Super Tuesday. He should also make a greater play for California; he has a lot of what this state often wants.

Having said that, if Kerry doesn't absolutely knock him out on March 2nd, he's in some possibly serious trouble: March 8th is American Samoa, which isn't such a big deal, but March 9th is Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Florida.

I hope we can come to our collective senses.

How will John Kerry, running on foreign policy, explain voting against the first Gulf War? Deeeesaster. How will he fair in a debate against Junior? Sure, he'll win, but it'll be a clinical win, whereas Edwards will have a visceral, personable, tactical and strategic win against little smirky.

Best candidate we've had in forty years. Period.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:04 PM
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20. Edwards is appealing to suburban voters
If you check out the recent exit polls, Edwards is appealing to suburban voters more than rural voters. He's also doing better with voters with college and graduate degrees (at least, in Wisconsin.) He's also doing well with voters making over 50,000/year. I thought it would be the opposite.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 09:31 AM
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40. I agree
I thought it would be the oposite on the 50 k thing.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 08:45 AM
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37. Go John Edwards!
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 08:45 AM by spooky3
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rhino47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:09 PM
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21. Just came from Edwards rally
I was somewhat surprised at not only the sheer number of people there but also the diversity.
I saw maybe 8 republicans that were pissed at bush.I also
saw labor (held in the teamsters hall in youngstown ohio),DK supporters,former dean supporters.I saw black white gay straight.It was very inspiring to see so many like minded people.Edwards did well with his speech.He was nice enough to stop and talk to my 11 year old daughter shake her hand and sign her poster.I do not know if he can get the numbers needed for the nom.I heard alot of people at the rally talking about a brokered convention.I think that Edwards would definitely spank shrub.Think bout it.Shrub`s appeal supposedly is his straight forwardness,*puke* and likability.Edwards is much more likable and sincere.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:14 PM
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22. yes, I have believed he will for a year. No change.
he is the right communicator and he has the only electable message.

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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:25 PM
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23. Edwards will not be the nominee, I hope.
But if he is, I will vote for him. He's pretty much a blank slate, really, which is why I think the GOP would tear him up. Anyone who has done anything is gonna have some baggage-like Kerry. Edwards hasn't done that much.

Kerry's responces so far to Rove's smearmachine have been impressive, I think. He has thrown everything straight back in their face...challenged Bush to a debate on Vietnam-excellent.

And they say Edwards really can't even bring his own state and he is way too weak on the military and foreign affairs...no, I think he should be the next Attorney General. I like the guy, as most of us do, but the GOP is gonna make this a referendum on national security and who can do it best, so I think I had better stick with John Kerry. He will shove it up their butts. Sideways.

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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:12 PM
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27. No
Not at all. Give me a break. Perhaps if Edwards came to grip with his budding homesexuality, he would be well rounded and stable enough to be potus. Right now, hes just a lawyer, with a fake smile. Dime a dozen.
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:31 PM
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28. Yes, Edwards can beat Bush.
So can Kerry!

I just like Edwards better.

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 11:45 PM
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29. No
One of the Sunday news shows did a delegate calculation, & made it seem just about impossible.

But hey, we'll see. It's the only excitement left in the primary contest.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:57 AM
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33. "It's the only excitement left in the primary contest"
Edited on Mon Feb-23-04 12:58 AM by GreenArrow
Are you kidding? Ralph Nader in the house!

If that's not excitement, I don't know what is.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:14 AM
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30. Yes, and thank god!
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:15 AM
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31. Yes, Inshallah
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 09:20 AM
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38. Ex-Dean backers turn to Edwards
Ex-Dean backers turn to Edwards

Senator's targeted supporters include onetime organizers

MARK JOHNSON

Staff Writer


COLUMBUS, Ohio - Ohio State University freshman Nick Benson, dressed in a navy suit and light blue tie, stood on stage behind U.S. Sen. John Edwards at a rally in a university ballroom Sunday.

He might have been just another one of the 30 human backdrops, except that until last week, Benson was president of the OSU students backing former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean.

The night before, Dean's Ohio coordinator, Steve Chaffin, announced at an Edwards rally in Cleveland that he was endorsing the N.C. senator for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Days after Dean departed the presidential race, Edwards is quickly and successfully courting the organizers in some key states who helped marshal Dean's Internet-fueled troops.

"Governor Dean told us we have the power" to change America, Chaffin said after his announcement. "We think Senator Edwards has that same kind of approach."

Although Dean has not endorsed anyone, Edwards has targeted Dean backers in Ohio and Minnesota, two of the more delegate-rich contests among 10 states holding primaries on March 2, Super Tuesday.

Edwards has welcomed the Dean faithfull

More
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/8018245.htm


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