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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 09:54 PM
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Edwards/Biden
both have known personal loss


both know what is like to be middle class


both are concerned for US
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 09:57 PM
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1. not going to happen
Perhaps if Biden were 10 years younger, but no way a guy in his 60s who has the seniority he has in the Senate, is going to give that up for the vp spot. Assuming Edwards won, he'd be 70+ when he got the chance to run for the top position. It just doesn't work that way.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:05 PM
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3. True.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:06 PM
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4. Cheney
just sayin'. Jr is a complete imbecile and somehow someone with so much "expertise" agreed to work under him.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:24 PM
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7. Biden isn't diabolical like Cheney. nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:03 PM
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19. You are wrong. See post 18 below.
n/t
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:05 PM
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2. Edwards/Cuomo, would get shit done. nt
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:50 PM
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17. Hey... speaking of Cuomo..

It just dawned on me that what's his face is missing... Draft Cuomo .. ..or something like that...

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:07 PM
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5. Biden has said he doesn't want to be VP - and I agree with him. We have such
an exceptional group of candidates this time, I have high hopes that whoever becomes President will utilize the other candidates in his/her administration, as each of them could contribute greatly to our country.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:08 PM
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6. K&R #5 and a vid I saw on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsJUXEUgAkc

an interesting compilation, with the ending saying the duo you suggest - and I agree... and I think America would agree, also.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:25 PM
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8. I don't think the nice folks in the Biden forum are too keen on your plan. Link:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:37 PM
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11. they
seem to not like anyone but him... there's too many people on DU like that. They are only for their candidate and think that the other Democrats suck. That's horrible. Only one candidate stands out for me as a total suck up to the corporate interests. One has ticked me off a lot, but I'd still happily vote for him. The rest seem pretty good to me. (esp. considering DUMKOFF that's in the oval office right now playing 52 card pickup with himself or batting around a ball of yarn)
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:29 PM
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9. My gut feeling is, that they don't like each other very well...
just a feeling...they never seem to..."connect"...other than when John is saying "Joe's Right"...I've never even seen them talking come to think of it...
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:36 PM
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10. puke/gag
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:38 PM
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12. oh how LOVELY!
thank you for adding that wonderful thought. I'm thrilled, as a Democrat, you find them utterly horrible as a tandem.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:44 PM
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15. I'm glad...
that my post was clear with no further explanation.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:01 AM
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23. Enjoy McCain/Huckabee
b/c there's an amazing difference between that, and who they'd appoint to the Supreme Court, than an Edwards/Biden Adm.

And if you're not for that first ticket, then who are you for? DK? That's like saying my college professor should run, it's unfortunately laughable at this point. Clinton? That'd be fitting considering the absurd puke comment. Obama? Fine, he's good, but not much different than either JE or JB.

And since you felt the need to come back and make a reply to to your puke comment, would you like to explain in a grown up manner who would be good, instead?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:28 AM
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25. yeah, I don't mind..
Ok, first off, I think almost all of the candidates we have this time are complete crap, especially all of the senators, because they all either voted for IWR or to keep funding this boondoggle. For that, I don't think any Democrats (or anyone who respects the rule of law) should vote for any of them. This was was an illegal war of aggression. Anyone who voted for it either has no respect for international law/human rights and/or will do anything because they think it will be politically advantageous. They are criminals (ok, maybe not Obama).

Of the candidates running, I like DK the best. There are things in his platform that I don't like ("department of peace".... oh god... how lame), but I agree with him on most things, and I think he would be best for our country: Universal Healthcare, ending the war, criminal charges brought against the present regime even when they've left office, etc. Before you say that it's a pipe-dream, think about what we are capable of as human beings. We can throw a wrench in the works if enough people want to..... please, just look at candidates' platforms, their history as members of the government, and make your own choice based on who you think best reflects your views and would, if elected, be best for this country. I think that person is DK, but you honestly may not, and I respect that.

however.... as I said before, all of the senators (except *maybe* Obama) are crooks, and we shouldn't vote for them. I don't want to hear anything about "electability", because if the only people who can get elected are crooks, there's almost no point in having an election. So, I think the reasonable choices to consider are Kucinich, Gravel and Richardson (and maybe Obama). I couldn't really vote for any of the others in good conscience.

that being said.... I'm afraid that the republicans are even worse crooks, for the most part. I don't think Paul is a crook, but I'd rather have a war AND public schools and social security than stop the war only to lose what this country means to me.... So I'll be voting for the Democrat next year.

Please though... I implore you to reconsider any vote for someone who has so many times voted to sell out this country and its' people. We ought to have MUCH higher standards, even if that means losing elections. What's the point of winning an election when the person who's won isn't much better than the person who's lost? The real losers will be us if we vote in one of these senators.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:25 AM
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31. I like your response, thank you n/t
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:42 PM
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13. Biden/Edwards
Why on earth would the senator with decades of experience serve as the VP to the one-term senator?!?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:44 PM
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14. Swap that. Biden has experience, intelligence, and toughness. Edwards has one term,
nice hair, and a nice stump speech.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:47 PM
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16. TGH .... (taint gonna happen) ... No way we'll run two senators again.


...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:55 PM
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18. Ignore cali's assertion above. History shows you might be on to something.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 11:04 PM by David Zephyr
cali asserts: "Perhaps if Biden were 10 years younger, but no way a guy in his 60s who has the seniority he has in the Senate, is going to give that up for the vp spot."

History teaches something different from the 'cali law of running mate science':

Lloyd Bentsen was 12 years older than Mike Dukakis and Lloyd Bentsen also held powerful positions within the U.S. Senate. Bentsen accepted the running mate position as VP with Dukakis in 1988.

Lyndon Johnson was 9 years older than John Kennedy and Johnson, who held the most powerful position in the Senate as Majority Leader, accepted the running mate position as VP with JFK in 1960.

Joe Biden is just 11 years older than John Edwards.


greenbriar may be on to something. I don't know if he's right and neither does cali.

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:08 PM
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20. Except for Joe has already said he won't take VP...or SOS...
and he really means it. I'm aware that they all say that, but he's said many times, he'll just take his Rolodex and go back to the senate, and I believe him. He can do so much more there. His talent, experience, and knowledge would be wasted in a VP slot too.(in my opinion)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:26 AM
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26. Ok, ignore me. I suppose you want to Ignore Biden as well
He's said over and over and over again he won't accept a vp offer. In addition, let me note that Johnson was in his early fifties when he was JFK's running mate. That leaves you with Benson.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:35 PM
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21. Kucinich/Chomsky n/t
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:38 PM
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22. Biden won't take a VP slot
But I could see him taking Sec of State or National Security Advisor. Joe has some great skills.

Personally - I'd just rather see him as President :D
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:07 AM
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24. Biden on top of that ticket would be better
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:00 AM
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27. I don't care which gets the nomination

These two names are at the top of my list.

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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 AM
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28. Edwards/Richardson
Is a winner!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:26 AM
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29. Biden/Richardson
If we really do want change, that is.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:38 AM
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30. Both voted for a war that killed thousands of innocent people.
No thanks.
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