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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:15 PM
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Poll: Oprah could have negative effect on Obama
CNN: December 11, 2007
Poll: Oprah could have negative effect on Obama


Oprah and Obama campaigned in Iowa, South Carolina, and New Hampshire over the weekend.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Oprah Winfrey's campaign swing last weekend with Democrat Barack Obama was greeted with record-breaking crowds and an equal amount of speculation over how much impact the media mogul might have on the White House race. After all, Oprah has sent several books to the top of the bestseller list. Why couldn’t that magic touch take a candidate to the top of the polls? But a new survey out Monday night shows Winfrey's endorsement is unlikely to nudge Obama higher in the polls -– and could potentially hurt the Illinois senator.

According to a New York Times/CBS News poll released Monday, only 1 percent of Democrats polled reported that Winfrey's endorsement would make them more likely to support Obama, while 14 percent said they would be less likely to vote for the candidate because of Winfrey's support.

Meanwhile, rival Hillary Clinton's biggest celebrity endorser — her husband Bill Clinton — is likely to have more of an impact. The poll suggests 44 percent of Democrats are more likely to support the New York senator because of her famous husband, while only 7 percent are less likely to do so.

In fact, the former president is such a campaign asset that according to the poll, roughly as many Democrats are supporting the New York senator because of her husband as are supporting her because of her experience. Twenty-six percent of Hillary Clinton's supporters name Bill Clinton as the top reason they are backing her, while 23 percent say her own experience is the biggest factor.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/11/poll-oprah-could-have-negative-effect-on-obama/
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:17 PM
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1. probably came from the Clinton camp who is freaking to see 30,000 enthusiastic
voters come out for Obama.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:17 PM
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2. Oh COME ON ... Talk about SPIN ...
Sour grapes from Hillaryland, IMHO. There's NO WAY Oprah is going to HURT him; it's just a question of whether she helps him BIG TIME or not.

:eyes:
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:18 PM
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3. lol
don't count on it
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:18 PM
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4. Answer in your post. Bill top reason 26% backing Hillary. Obama not dependent on Oprah for support.
Twenty-six percent of Hillary Clinton's supporters name Bill Clinton as the top reason they are backing her, while 23 percent say her own experience is the biggest factor.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:19 PM
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5. That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've seen in a long time n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:20 PM
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6. It's a NATIONAL poll. Irrelevant. But I guess you gotta go wherever the "good news" for Hillary
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 04:22 PM by jenmito
is. :shrug: And it's not about Oprah vs. Bill. It's about Obama vs. Hillary and Oprah got over 60,000 people to go SEE Obama.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:21 PM
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7. Dumbest headline I've ever seen
They obviously don't understand the first thing about polls. Or maybe they were trying to be provocative.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:37 PM
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17. It smacks of desperation from people who don't want Obama to be the nominee.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:21 PM
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8. I don't buy it.
I think Obama's campaign did exactly what it intended. In Iowa, they pulled in what amounts to 23% of the electorate in 2004. Many of these are new voters. They asked many of them to volunteer before they gave away tickets. This is valuable.

In SC, it was a smaller percentage, but it helped Obama with blacks and women. In that way, I think it was a success.

People like to say that they're not affected by celebrities, and I agree to some degree. But what Obama's campaign did was organizational genius.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:22 PM
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9. yeah, the bride was too pretty - didn't like that wedding!
This is like the "Clinton fatigue" they were branding against Gore in 2000...
I don't like Oprah, but she certainly wouldn't make me NOT vote for a candidate I chose
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:26 PM
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10. This is the meme........
brought to you by the corporate media; The deconstructing Obama project has begun.

Nothing better for the corporate media than a hard fall for whomever they have decided should fall, 2.5 weeks prior to the vote. That's when the Corporate media becomes most active.

Thus far, Hillary was fallen.
Obama will be fallen.
And Edwards may end up with the whole enchilada BUT no money to compete during the crucial time Feb to July (due to his accepting matching funds).

In the end, the Dems get their "progressive" good looking Underdog White guy from the South,
the GOP gets their No national Security experienced flip flop opponent,
and the Corporate media gets 527 spending galore to help the Dem nominee stay afloat during Feb-July AND they get their close contest, ending with an October national security "scare 'em" foiled plot/terrorist attack video warning engineered by the WH
and America will get a "surprise" (against all conventional wisdom true underdog) GOP win (Huckee or McCain).
and
We will get our just desserts.


In the end, it will be the government that we deserve, once again...and it will suck bigtime!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:26 PM
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11. LOL
All weekend long from the Obamaphiles it was :woohoo:, "O&O are ON FIRE! Obama is unstoppable! He's going to win Iowa! Gobama! This is going to put him on top!"

Now when this is posted they all chime in with a bunch of ranting about the "Hillbots" doing nefarious stuff (it's always their fault) and how Obama is "not dependent on Oprah for votes". Interesting that they had nothing but good things to say about his association with Oprah over the weekend. :rofl:


I don't like Hillary but if her "Hillbots" can piss off the Obamaphiles then they're OK in my book.



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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:27 PM
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12. I wonder how many people are voting solely based on the fact that Bill is her husband...
compared to how many people are voting for Obama because Oprah is a supporter. Probably at LEAST 44% of voters compared to 1%. Obama's numbers have been rising since before Oprah's campaign stops for him. Hillary NEEDS Bill. Obama does not need Oprah.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:38 PM
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18. The difference is either Bill OR Hillary have the qualifications to be president..
As opposed to a former news anchor/talk show host|pt time legislator/pt time Senator..
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:40 PM
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20. No. The difference is Hillary wouldn't be in the running if she didn't have her husband's coattails
to ride.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:47 PM
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24. you can't speak in absolutes...because you have no evidence to prove your point..
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:50 PM
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25. This coming from someone who declares
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 04:50 PM by jenmito
"Hillary is 44"?! :rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:54 PM
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26. Read it and weep...
and practice saying, Madam President, next time you look in the mirror!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 05:01 PM
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28. So I'M going to be the next president?
Is that an official endorsement? :rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 05:36 PM
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29. Of yourself...sure..you only need one vote..
not exactly foolproof for you, though..
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:58 PM
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27. correction, Bill is qualified. Hillary has parlayed this into a Presidential run.
It's been her plan for 20 years.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:27 PM
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13. A ridiculous "poll" - I saw it somewhere else, too.
If someone is not gonna vote for Obama because of Oprah, they weren't going to vote for him anyway, I don't know where they come up with these things, but they're dreaming....
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:27 PM
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14. Meaningless..here's the whole piece they're missing
Bill will not bring new voters into the fold to anything near the degree that Oprah can. We'll never know the impact of her endorsement on people watching at home, but some 66,500 people came to those rallies and Obama now has a chance to convert them:

Obama begins intensive effort to turn Oprah fans into primary-election voters:

http://www.timesrepublican.com/page/content.detail/id/500387.html?nav=5047
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:28 PM
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15. I Have No Comment
I have no comment but to say it's incredibly "fucked up" to blame "Hillaryworlders" for a poll performed by the New York Times and cited by CNN...

These same people criticizing "Hillaryworlders" would have probably declared war on Malaysia when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor...
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:36 PM
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16. If people are going to ...
... vote for someone because OPRAH supports them, then we're in worse shape as a nation than I thought. Wake up !! We're not getting a free car with our support.

Let's elect someone based on their positions. Like being anti-nuclear (Edwards) and the most progressive of the top tier. And barring even that, maybe we should nominate the MOST ELECTABLE !!

Go EDWARDS !!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:44 PM
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21. Nobody SHOULD vote for Obama just because Oprah supports him. I wonder why
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 04:44 PM by jenmito
Edwards is having the Dukes of Hazzard guy and Kevin Bacon campaigning with him now after saying celebrity endorsements shouldn't matter.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:39 PM
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19. I don't know one person that actually likes Oprah.
She grates on all but the most banal people, sorta like Rachel Ray. But Bill Clinton? Give me a break? Some people are so blinded by their rockstar devotion to Obama that they can't acknowledge that Bill Clinton is a universally popular person.

But I realize that any time anyone posts anything that's not pleasant for OBama, then his fans must attack Hillary Clinton. It must be what they're paid to do...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:46 PM
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23. Too funny
Whining about attacks while attacking.

Both camps treat the other like shit. Why do so few partisans see that? Oh wait, I answered my own question. Talk about "rockstar devotion". :rofl:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 04:44 PM
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22. Oh, now Hillary is responsible for a poll that the BO worshippers
dont like?

Hilarious.
Yeah, that corporate NYT is out to get Obama.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 05:36 PM
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30. I think that is probably way off. If the PEW reasearch is accurate
celebrity endorsements appear to be a wash.

In Oprah's case, from a Septmeber PEW poll, she zeroed out.
The percentage was the same of those who would support(15%), vs those who would no longer support(15%), the candidate she chose. The same trend ocurred for other celebrity endorsements they polled about.

I just don't see anything that happened at her appearances that would make it that much of a negative for Obama. Unless people just didn't like the way it all played out? Or the PEW research wasn't a good indicator? Or...

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=357">MORE HERE

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