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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:53 PM Original message |
Should the constitution be changed to allow foreign borns to run for prez? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm biased, but I do believe it should be. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. I am inclined to say Yes |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes it should |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Sorry, with Ahhnold in the picture, I'm opposed to it. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. well |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. If the VP had to be native-born, |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. umm. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
69. Well, |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Geraldine Ferraro is from New York. |
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Kinkistyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think it should be allowed. |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. I'm against it. |
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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:09 PM Original message |
they are? |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. Yes, they are. |
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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. they are citizens |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Where does it say that? |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. it says: |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Actually, that proves MY point. thanks! |
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Enough is Enough (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
94. NOTE: Natural Born Citizen |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. it says no such thing |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
95. My copy does. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. Legally, service brats... |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. NO |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. this has nothing to do with |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. The rule should stand, one reason is that if things keep going |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. *ahem* |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why should we change it? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. there's a very good reason: |
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Kinkistyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. To give immigrants a fair chance at politics? |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. "To give immigrants a fair chance at politics?" |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And we shouldn't be allowed to run for POTUS because....? |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. I said in my earlier post that I really don't have a good reason |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Actually, until Andrew Jackson... |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. that's kind of fascinating to consider |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I know. |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
97. John Quincy Adams' wife, I believe |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
99. And in 1964, Barry Goldwater ran for president. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Absolutely |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. Let's leave the Constitution as it is. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Amending the constitution is very often a good thing |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. there are immense differences between |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. foreigners? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Thank you, Dookus! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. foreigners? |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. And the rest of us can get our Guiness, yeah |
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The Crow (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah...I think it should be changed. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. no I don't think so |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. NO. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. I think it should be changed. |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. So you'll |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. Yes and No |
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ringmastery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. What are you worried about? |
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DjTj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sure - we could just make it 35 years... |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. No |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
27. Isn't the threat of President Ahnold justification enough??? |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No it isn't justification enough |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I disagree |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
86. i don't give a flying fuck about france |
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bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
85. no, it isn't eom |
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littlejoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
31. Absolutely not! |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Why not? |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Then we will have Arnold for President! |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. What if... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. That would be a waste of the country's time to pass that amendment. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:19 PM Original message |
Not only no, but HELL NO. |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
50. Would he be willing to become a US citizen for, say, 25-30 years FIRST? |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. How much is enough? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Fine. |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Do you know how easy it is to set up residences? |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. 'Physically reside' |
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DoNotRefill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I'm not faking.... |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Key word I noticed: "states" |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
100. Do you vote in all three? |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
98. I see your point, |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. I shall utter the word no one seems to want to say: |
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adadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
42. What is fundamentally more important |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Amen. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. absolutely not. |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. It's already been amended to allow zombies to run! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. LOL |
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SadEagle (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yes, I think so. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
62. Why not just grant U.S. citizenship to everyone in the world? |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. The PNACers are in the process of that. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Maybe so, but if that comes to pass, |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
63. A certain allegiance is assumed to the country of one's birth |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. nonsense |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. And so have I, all good Americans |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Why should foreign-born men like Ahhnold have a right |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. What |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. I have a deep *love and affection* for Ireland, but no *loyalty* whatsoeve |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. Hear! Hear! |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. yes |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yes! America is the only industrialized nation having such a ban |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. And how many non-natives get elected |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Italian born wife of the late Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Ghandi |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
83. Absolutely Yes. |
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Enough is Enough (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
88. Absolutely not. |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
89. Yes. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
90. if it weren't for the fact that |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
91. NO! |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. What was really eerie was the clip from the movie |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
92. No way. I don't want that idiot as President. |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
93. The constitution should not be altered during "war time" |
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NV1962 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
101. I'm a foreign born immigrant, and I'm against it |
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NV1962 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
102. *ka-boom* |
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CivilRightsNow (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
103. NO. |
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