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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:33 PM
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Help a student who has a real RW nutjob asking him to write a paper about Mexico
This is for Human Geography Social Studies class. The question he needs to answer for the paper is this:

What can Mexico do to improve it's economy?

To give you a bit of background on what is being taught - this guy is using Thomas Friedman's "The World is Flat" book for material. The teacher is a globalization/Reagonomics freak. He puts down or laughs off virtually ~any~ conversation that doesn't fall into his favorite theme.

I know we have some real research wizards in DU - can anyone post links to alternative viewpoints? I'd like to find something to counter his *globalization or nothing* viewpoint.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:42 PM
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1. Start by talking about how the 5 wealthiest families in Mexico control all
the wealth there.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:48 PM
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6. Much like the US
Just a few more layers of LLCs and Banks is all.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:45 PM
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2. Tell the kid to write, on a single piece of paper

To solve their economic crisis, Mexicans must find a heretofore undiscovered oil field of massive proportions under Mexican soil. Sell said oil to the United States at prices approaching a hundred dollars a barrel. Use that money to subsidize industry, education and technology development...and build a border fence to prevent Americans from hopping over it to take all those cushy Mexican jobs!



Seriously, if the Prof is a wingnut, AND an idiot (using Friedman as a text is idiotic, that man is always fucking WRONG) if the kid wants a good grade, he should shut up, parrot crap, and take his A. And learn from the experience nothing about world economies, but that some people are just pushy, lying assholes.

Maybe he could, subsequent to the end of the class, write a letter to some editor debunking the myth of 'uber-liberal' educators, using this asshole as an example....
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:20 PM
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11. I've told him the same advice
This guy is an extreme wingnut. For example - he does NOT consider Buddhism or Islam religions. Any country that is non US (or an ally) is *inferior*. He's bragged that he was an assassin in South America for the US Army, and he has a bounty on his head for what he's *done* while in the Army.

If a student should show up in class without a pencil, they have to do 25 pushups in front of the entire class before he'll loan them one. Oh yeah - the pencils are his precious Army pencils. So far, he's slammed liberals, hippies, feminists - the list goes on. He's memorized the talking points, and is incorporating all of them into his class. And anyone that disagrees with him is a mental defective - he's actually SAID this in class.

I've told him he needs to survive this class. Literally. This guy is a control freak of the worst order.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:11 AM
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14. Is this a public school??? Someone oughta record this guy.
Actually, some smartass kid oughta record this putz and, at the end of the term, when they're free, put him on YOUTUBE and do the Public Shaming routine.

If this IS a public school, it really should be formal complaint time--his comments are discriminatory, at best. He sounds like he should be given the 'Off You Go To Anger Management" followed by "Tolerance and Inclusivity" lessons, and then a probationary period. He'll only get worse if someone doesn't rein him in.

That's beyond the fucking pale.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 09:58 AM
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17. yup - public high school in Georgia
And this is a teacher who is supposed to be teaching these kids about the diversity of the world. Ain't it grand that this bigot gets to pass on his bigotry? :sarcasm:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:42 AM
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21. These kids need to bring in their camera phones and coverty record this putz
And find a way to put together a video of his WORST moments at the end of the school year, out there on YOUTUBE for all to see.

That's just disgraceful.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:46 PM
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3. Have the student read "Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein.
Tons of good material there...
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:16 AM
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15. Just what I was thinking.
It would be great to use that book as a reference for a paper in this guys class. She really rips Friedman a new one! :)
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:45 PM
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23. the paper is due Monday
But he is getting Shock Doctrine after I finish it.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:47 PM
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4. Nafta
and the destruction of the corn based agricultural industry , by our heavily subsidized factory farms
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:47 PM
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5. The kid will know better than you what the attitude of his teacher is
toward ideas he doesn't agree with. I am an unabashed liberal and as one my students know it in classes where issues come up (stats). But I defend and expect students to have viewpoints I don't agree with.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:50 PM
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7. If the world is flat how come Friedman believes
some nations have the right to invade others, and not vice versa?
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:54 PM
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8. TLC should do the trick.
Direct your kidlet to focus on the impact of NAFTA, TLC in Spanish, on Mexican workers, markets, and firms.

http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/NAFTA@7/mx.html

Subsidiary topic QS9000, a quality system that blended the old Detroit Big 3's systems of setting up preferred suppliers. At one time, no Ford US plant qualified under Ford's own Q-101 program! Conversely, the highest rated Q-101 manufacturing plants were down in Mexico.

Does your kid write well? Does the teacher grade responsibly, ie actually read the stuff kids write and mark it up, demand rewrites? When you have an idiot teacher whose goal in life is to draw that next paycheck, put pressure on them to earn it by closely reading and commenting on kids' work. Holding the teacher accountable by meeting with the Principal to express your concern that the teacher isn't teaching unless you see evidence.

Doesn't matter the teacher's viewpoint. What matters is the feedback the teacher provides. Even an asshole can help a kid think critically, write better, learn research.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 05:15 PM
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9. I'm inclined to think that
the United States ought to annex Mexico. It would instantly solve the illegal Mexican problem. And if the U.S. minimum wage were actually enforced in our new southern section, it would immediately raise the standard of living for a lot of them.

Look, I know there will be a lot of kinks to work out, but if the two Germanies could reunite, why not unite two of the three parts of North America? (Canada, you're next!)
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 06:15 PM
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10. Here's what Mexico needs
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 06:19 PM by izquierdista
I speak from two years of living South of the Border (although in Baja California, which is one of the more prosperous states).

1) PAVE THE FUCKING ROADS! Boy that felt good to say that. Even for the people who don't own cars, paved roads would be a GREAT help. The micros (buses used for public transport) wouldn't break an axle trying to get from one place to another. Also, when roads are paved, there aren't huge clouds of dust thrown up by every passing car. There are towns where the roads are impassable during the rainy season and the dirt gets EVERYWHERE. Cars would also run better if they didn't have dirt in the engine, dirt in the trunk, dirt in the oil, dirt in the gas tank, dirt on the windows...you get the picture. If they doubled the amount of road construction each year for the next 5 years, then they might soon get to the point where the country was a nice place to live. Also, it would put lots of people to work and greatly improve the community.

2) Commit to a plan to get everyone in the country on piped water and phase out the use of pilas for each house. Americans take for granted the local water company or co-op and have forgotten what it was like to have to fetch water or have it delivered to you. This is another idea that would save money in the long run, for pumps and pipes are long term investments, while old trucks just make for more wear and tear and pollution and are not a cost effective way to deliver water.

3) Institute some quality control and local oversight for CFE (Comision Federal de Electricidad http://www.cfe.gob.mx/en/) so that they are answerable to the locals instead of the bureaucrats in Mexico City. A program similar to the Rural Electrification of the New Deal would be of great help to rural Mexicans.

If this teacher is quoting Thomas Friedman, then that is exactly the wrong prescription for Mexico. Instead of wrapping their economy tighter around the US axle, they need to free it up, work to develop their OWN country instead of sending millions of their able bodied workers to work construction in the United States. If every one of those people standing in front of Home Depot was back home, installing pavers in the town plaza, or laying water and sewer lines, or setting up solar and renewable energy plants in villages that are off the grid, the country could make great strides.

Mexicans are blessed with a wonderful climate and the best beaches in North America. They have developed the tourist industry in various project towns like Cabo, Cancun, Ixtapa, Zihuatenejo, etc., which were nothing before the oil money came in. It has not been fully exploited and could still expand to provide many jobs. Right now, large hotels are playtoys for the wealthy, they get to play the bigshot, but little money actually trickles down to the staff. What is needed is some way to raise the minimum wage of 48 pesos per day (around $4.50) to make it a livable wage, preferably through some type of enforced profit sharing. The worker ALWAYS gets the shaft in Mexico and the boss ALWAYS ends up with extra pesos in his pocket.

Politicians on both sides of the border point to the maquiladoras as having helped the economy there. How? How can $100 a week lift a family out of poverty? What it does do is drain their time, so that they have no energy left to be able to work and improve themselves, their homes and their communities. Again, Mexican labor, making Mexican products with local Mexican materials should be used to build communities, not be sold off to the global capitalists who drive a hard bargain by threatening to move to China.

If you want specific proposals that would help everyday Mexicans, there is no better source than the website of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, the man who should legitimately be Presidente (http://www.amlo.org.mx/).

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:30 PM
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12. If she wants to mention the immigration problems, frame it as
supply and demand. As long as our businesses demand cheap Mexican labor, there will be a supply. Mexico has an oversupply of unemployed poor. Allowing them to jump the fence solves their problem, and supplies cheap labor to US capitalist.

BTW, a warming climate could cause more moisture to leave their already arid soil. That could force more north into the US.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 09:30 PM
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13. When I was in high school ...

When I was in high school I was a Michael P. Keaton knockoff. My social studies teacher challenged me with LOTS of socialist and communist dogma. In retrospect, I don't think she believed much of it. She was trying to make us think about justifying our own views.

I have no problem with an instructor pushing Friedman dogma so long as students are expected to argue the other side.


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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:00 AM
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18. that's just it -- they are NOT expected to argue the other side
And anyone who does usually is in trouble.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:37 AM
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16. Give him what he wants
Right wing nutjobs will give you a lousy grade for not regurgitating their point of view. Go for the grade. Otherwise, you'll work really hard and get a C. It happened to me once, then I gave the professor what he wanted and got As.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:07 AM
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19. I'm not sure of the quote but when Vicente Foxx was asked how they
would go about bringing their standard of living up to our standards (re nafta) he said oh no you will come now to ours! Guess what,, he was right!
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:09 AM
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20. I'd start by seeing what joe stiglitz had to say about Mexico...
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 01:44 PM
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22. that's an amazing piece -- thanks for posting it! n/t
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