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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:49 PM
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Obama's IL Senate years gave rise to a presidential contender
Building blocs
By Kevin McDermott
POST-DISPATCH SPRINGFIELD BUREAU


==Barack Obama — the young Chicago Democrat and a rising star in the state Senate — stopped by Haine's office one day. He "came in sat down, and said, 'I would like to work with you and the state's attorneys.' I was bowled over by it," Haine recalled recently. "… He was part of the liberal Senate bloc. … I just thought he would be in lockstep with those who were flatly against the death penalty. … (But) he wanted to craft meaningful reform." Haine, now an Obama presidential delegate, was one of many initially skeptical legislators who were won over by Obama during his Springfield years. Their introduction to him — a microcosm of the introduction the nation is getting right now — was rocky at first.

Legislative staffers found him so ambitious that they didn't want to work with him. Fellow black lawmakers saw him as an arrogant outsider, mocking him and, in one instance, almost coming to blows on the state Senate floor. His voting record was cautious to the point of controversy. Voters in his South Side Chicago district gave him such a drubbing in his first congressional campaign that he felt "personally repudiated by the entire community," he would later write. Along the way, say people who knew him then, Obama was learning crucial lessons that have come into play on the national stage lately as he fights for the Democratic presidential nomination.

...In 1999, after two years as a state senator, Obama challenged the re-election of U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Chicago, a former Black Panther. Ignoring advice from his growing circle of state Senate confidants, Obama launched a campaign that few believed he was ready for. Obama's 2006 autobiography, "The Audacity of Hope," recalls the congressional primary campaign as a debacle, "a race in which everything that could go wrong did go wrong, in which my own mistakes were compounded by tragedy and farce."

...But Shomon, the state Senate staffer, said that loss was crucial to Obama's successful U.S. Senate campaign four years later because it demonstrated his cross-cultural appeal. Though Obama was beaten badly overall, he won 70 percent of the vote in one mostly white ward of the largely black district. After the loss, Obama resumed his state Senate career and, by most accounts, began to look less like an annoying young prodigy and more like a statesman. He gained a reputation among Republicans and conservative Democrats as a conduit into the liberal wing of the chamber.

"He was perceptive enough to come over to our side of the aisle and attempt to work with us" while the Republicans were in charge of the state Senate before 2003, said Sen. Kirk Dillard, R-Hinsdale. "Sen. Obama may not always be with you, but you'll be guaranteed he will listen to you and understand you and ask the right questions."

By the time Haine, the Alton Democrat, got to know Obama in early 2003, he was already talking privately to friends about a U.S. Senate run the following year, a move that would put him on his current path as a presidential contender. "My votes on many issues were several clicks to the right of Barack, but he was always reaching out, not only to me, to everyone else on both sides of the aisle. (I decided) this was the job for him," recalls Haine. "He came to my home in Alton in the summer. We had lemonade on the back deck there … and I introduced him to people in the community."

It was a tough sell at first with Metro East Democratic officials, Haine said. "I got some derision," says Haine. "… They said, 'This guy, Obama, sounds like some guy from the Middle East. He's got no money, no name recognition, you must be out of your mind.' I said, 'Just wait. Mark my words. He's got magic.'"==

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/924725BBB328259D862573AB00145101?OpenDocument

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 01:52 PM
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1. All those "present" votes go a long way "giving rise to" a
fine presidential candidate.
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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:01 PM
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2. yep and obama knew what he was doing when he was being a coward in Illinois
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:07 PM
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4. Another failed line of attack
==There's never been a problem with Sen. Obama. It's really a shame," said Lorna Brett, a Clinton supporter and former president of Chicago NOW.

Brett and other women's rights and abortion rights advocates say they often asked lawmakers to vote present as part of a larger legislative strategy.

"In this case, I think both candidates are committed to choice and I hate to see the pro-choice community cannibalize itself on this issue,'' said Brett. "If either candidate wins, the pro-choice community is in good hands."==

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/illinois_now_for_clinton_with.html

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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:10 PM
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6. Illinois NOW disagrees with Obama's hometown chapter...
As if Chicago NOW would defy the political heavyweight that happens to be from their town...

The "present" votes are part of a larger pattern of Obama's cowardice. Kyl-Lieberman is the most recent prominent example. It is all very ironic for a man who wrote a book called the "Audacity of Hope."
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:12 PM
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7. Tell you what
I'll have a giant "Obama is a Coward" banner made, and you can go to Iowa.

Deal?
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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:16 PM
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11. free airfare?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:26 PM
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15. Bulls fan needs airfare to Iowa?
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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:42 PM
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19. Des Moines is about 350 miles from Chicago
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 02:44 PM by Progress And Change
So many Bulls fans would need airfare to get to Iowa. Do you think Obama takes the bus to Iowa? How many Bulls fans do you think will be caucusing in Iowa? Maybe Obama can rent a few 747's?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 05:53 PM
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22. Drive, it will give you time to think
I'll send sandwiches. You keep drinking the haterade.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:06 PM
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3. Yep. Just what I want for the supposed leader of the free world
A rockstar style candidate with catchy "call and response" stump speeches and "magic" who doesn't vote, and has bad advisors. Where do i sign up?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:09 PM
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5. It's good to taste defeat...leads to personal evolution
as Hillary will soon find out for the first time.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:13 PM
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8. If she loses, it won be the first battle she's lost, nor will it be the last.
At least she shows up to fight.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:21 PM
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13. It will be the first election she has lost
Then again, the Iowa caucus is only the third time in her life she has stood before the voters, and the first time she has faced real competition. I actually respect her enough to believe that she'll come out of the experience stronger and more formidable as a candidate.

Then again, I try not to underestimate the competition.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:37 PM
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17. Neither do I. I look very carefully. At all of them.
But I can teach just about anyone to give a great speech. So I look beyond rhetoric.
I assume we value different things in a leader.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:39 PM
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18. Hence the above article
Reading comprehension...it's a good thing.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:47 PM
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20. It is in those who employ it. You see, well, whatever it is you see, in the article and
I see a man, who after all that, is still not ready for prime time.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:14 PM
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9. Thanks for sharing. It's nice to see a *presidential* figure who can actually inspire...
even policy-makers...toward "the better angels of our nature."

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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:16 PM
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10. "better angels of our nature"=a guy who goes on tour with a bigot?
That sounds more like Nixon and Reagan than an uplifting, positive, inspirational figure...
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 04:27 PM
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21. Future scenario:
If Obama and Huckabee win their respective party's nominations, will you stay home or hold your nose and vote?

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:20 PM
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12. Then he woke up one morning in 2007 and said to himself,"Hey, I think I'd like to be president".
:think:
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Progress And Change Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:23 PM
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14. haha. hey, it was his "destiny." oprah ordainted it so
:spray:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 02:34 PM
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16. You mean the association with the gangster.
Maybe he told Obama to run for the US senate and then they both could reel it in...that's why they say the GANGSTER dug into Ryan's background found out about the sex clubs and made it public...just saying that's the rumor that was all over the net before Obama ran for the senate. Dirty dealing from the get go.
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