where was Oprah in 2000?

[antiimperialist]

This post was inspired by the "Where was Oprah in 2004" post.

In 2000, she was doing this:

[acmavm]

1. No shit. That's why I cannot figure out why anyone cares what Oprah

thinks or who she supports.

And it ain't a race thing no matter how anyone would like to make it one.

[Progress And Change]

2. she supported arnold too. another republican behind Barack Lieberman?

[MonkeyFunk]

44. She never endorsed Arnold

Having someone on her show isn't an endorsement.

[ronnykmarshall]

54. True

But she had Arnie and Skelator on the show in the middle of the recall and never had Gray Davis on.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

68. She DID endorse Arnold

Arnold and Maria are personal friends of Oprah. Maria is one of her best friends. Oprah didn't just have Arnold on her show, that would imply she remained neutral, she didn't, it was an hour long commercial for Arnold's candidacy. One quote I remember is "All I know is a man who's as great of a father as Arnold is, would have to make a great governor too." That's an endorsement.

[NYCGirl]

3. Here's Oprah and AL GORE in 2000:

http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/Gore_shows_his_lighter_side_on_Oprah.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/in_depth/americas/2000/us_elections/election_news/921491.stm

[Progress And Change]

4. that doesn't excuse her having bush on her show. what democrat would give free airtime to bush?

If it weren't for Oprah Gore might be president right now...

[NYCGirl]

5. She's a television personality. She gave EQUAL TIME.

Edited to add:

It's a bullshit charge.

[Progress And Change]

6. is she going to give "equal time" to Hillary, Edwards, Biden, et al.?

She owns her company. She can do whatever she pleases on her show. Did she give Gray Davis equal time in 2003?

[NYCGirl]

7. I have no idea on who she's going to have on her show. But she was evenhanded

in 2000. Obviously, all these years of the Bush administration and admiration for a local political light moving up in the world has spurred her to further action.

[Progress And Change]

8. she was "evenhanded" in 2000, republican in 2003 and now she is telling Dems what to do

Nice theory. Too bad she voted for Jesse Jackson in 1988 and that kills the theory. What motivated her to vote for a progressive like Jackson in 1988? Why did that disappear for the next two decades?

[NYCGirl]

10. Wow. She had no Democrats on her show at all in 2003? Maybe you should

write her for your answers.

[Progress And Change]

15. she had arnold. did she have his democratic opponent gray davis on the show?

What inspired Oprah to vote in a primary in 1988 and then disappear from politics for two decades? She was nowhere during the gulf wars, 1992, impeachment, 2000, the selection after the 2000 vote, the lead-up and aftermath of the second Iraq war, 2004, the 2006 elections. She could vote in 1988 and then goes full throttle for Obama in 2008. Yet nothing from 1988-2008 mattered to her? That suggests she has no real political beleifs and certainly is no Democrat...

[NYCGirl]

17. Did you know that Keith Olbermann does not vote at all? Guess he's not a

Democrat either. That is not the yardstick to be using.

[saracat]

21. Keith is a journalist and supposed to be impartial.That is why he doesn't vote.Oprah isn't a

journalist.She is an entertainment figure and is not impartial.She has sucked up to Repugs and there is no reson to believe she is a Democrat.Has she said she is? Oprah is only interested in Oprah.

[cuke]

22. Did you know that, as an entertainer, Oprah need not give "equal time" to others

and she hasn't given "equal time" to others.

Kind of blows your "Oprah's been even handed" argument out of the water. Now go watch Arnold's appearance on her show and see how she practically fellated him. Then look into how Oprah supports the uber-freeper Dr Phil.

[NYCGirl]

26. In 2000 she was even handed, as I said. No, she doesn't HAVE TO BE. But she was.

Who cares about Dr. Phil?

:shrug:

Harpo Productions also produces The Rachel Ray Show. Got any theories on her?

[cuke]

32. No she wasn't fair handed. She never has been

She has supported a # of repukes like Arnold and bush*

[NYCGirl]

35. We were talking about in 2000. She had on BOTH Gore and Bush.

There's another thread floating around here about "Where was Oprah in 2004". Maybe you should start one about 2003 and other years.

[cuke]

36. She has always slanted to the right when it comes to politics

And we'll get around to 2003. Patience

[NYCGirl]

38. So why does she give more money to Democrats? NT

[cuke]

39. To make up for giving more airtime to repukes

[NYCGirl]

40. LOL, if you say so.

:rofl:

[Progress And Change]

Ko speaks out on politics. Oprah was silent until now...

[NYCGirl]

28. I guess something must've really inspired her, then. NT

[Progress And Change]

30. what inspired her about Jackson in 1988 and where did that thing go for two decades?

[NYCGirl]

31. Here, ask her:

http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_reach_fromu.jhtml

[antiimperialist]

11. Could it be that Hillary is agains media consolidation?

I don't know where Obama stands on the issue but Hil wants the fairness doctrine back, where ordinary citizens would have more power.

[NYCGirl]

13. "Media consolidation silences diverse voices" by Sens. Obama and Kerry

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6758.html

[Frances]

9. If Oprah believes in equal time,

why did she have Arnold on her show but refused to have Gray Davis, the legally elected governor of California who was recalled shortly afterward?

California has a very undemocratic system where if you have enough money you can pay people to collect signatures to put anything you want on a ballot. The rich Repubs put the recall on the ballot. Then the TV stations played Arnold movies night and day. Oprah and Leno and right wing radio nutcasters had ARnold on their shows (mucho free publicity) but not Gray. The courts upheld the legality of all this free publicity for Arnold. The stations did not have to give equal time to Gray Davis.

And why was Gray Davis unpopular? Because Enron held back electricity and the state had lots of blackouts. Cheney refused to allow any help for the state. Do I think this was a REpub plot? You bet I do. To this day, we don't know who Cheney was talking to at this time. The courts have refused to make Cheney tell.

[NYCGirl]

12. Did she refuse to have Davis? Got any proof of that? NT

[cuke]

24. Grey did not appear on her show. Arnold did

[NYCGirl]

29. Did she REFUSE him? NT

[cuke]

33. Yes

[NYCGirl]

37. Got any proof of that? NT

[saracat]

25. The fact that she didn't have ANY of the other Ca.gubernatorial contenders on her show?

[ronnykmarshall]

56. Not even Gary Coleman!

[Frances]

27. She did not have Gray Davis.

Neither did Leno, who did have Arnold.

Of course, we Dems were upset. But the courts said that Oprah and Leno and the right wing radio people did NOT have to give equal time.

I had just moved to California and was bitterly disappointed in the recall.

By the way, people said that OPrah gave this free publicity to Arnold because she was friends with Maria, Arnold's wife.

[cuke]

34. Obama supporters want to deny reality

They want to pretend that we've forgotten about how slanted Oprah has been

[ronnykmarshall]

55. What I really hated about the recall

other than the results.

If you want to recall the gov? Fine.

But next in line is the Lt. Gov. Bustamate was Lt. Gov at the time and should have been elevated to the Gov's office as a result. Not that HE was all that.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. Just don't bring up Ellen.

Good god! I saw a thread in GD that was a blood bath.

[tammywammy]

57. uh oh, now you've gone and done it

Now they'll all be "debating" Obama's dancing the rest of the day.


:spank:

[ronnykmarshall]

59. Obama can shake it !

I seen it!

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. A Democrat who hosts a TV show

She is an entertainer and a business woman.

[mtnsnake]

16. Yeah, but Al Gore wasn't licking her face like what she let Bush do to her in the OP pictures

Those pictures of her and Gore are just generic pictures of her with a great man. The pictures of her with Bush are absoultely revolting. There she is letting the imbecile lick the side of her face and she's standing right there with a smug look of delight on her face. Gross!!

[NYCGirl]

18. Guess not, but he sure liked her footwear!

[mtnsnake]

20. That was a near miss. Gore almost went from being a baritone to a soprano!

She's gotta watch where she's kicking when she laughs! Are those things shoes or a deadly weapon?

[NYCGirl]

23. Al seemed to like them:

Gore bantered with Winfrey as he admired her ruby-red stiletto-heel boots, recalled how both he and Winfrey were young reporters in Nashville during the same time, and when Winfrey asked him if he is tired of critics calling him stiff, Gore chuckled and replied, "They're going to say something, so compared to the alternatives...."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_17_98/ai_65861367

[HughMoran]

42. You mean Oprah isn't a Bushie as implied by this post?

:eyes:

[msongs]

14. oprah is all about herself and whatever makes the most money nt

[old guy]

19. You are correct IMO.

She has the bully pulpit if she would choose to use it, but she fears her bottom line may suffer. The bottom line is the most important line for her. Just saying.

[The Backlash Cometh]

41. Oh, God. An open mouth kiss..

:puke:

[ecstatic]

43. And Pelosi wasn't doing the same exact f*cking thing?

WTF. You've gotta be kidding me. Oprah is a private citizen. DU has really jumped the shark.

[ronnykmarshall]

58. HAS jumped the shark?

Honey, that shark swam off LONG time ago.

[ChiciB1]

45. My Goodness... I NEVER Watch Oprah Myself... Has NOTHING To Do

with politics, but you guys are going CRAZY with this stuff!! What a fight and I'm finding it very amusing too!

One thing I do know from listening to "news" the lady has LOTS AND LOTS of MONEY! And I think she gives a lot of things away on her program, but I don't even know when she's on where I live!

But then, I'm more FSTV and alternative news!

[Joanne98]

46. She was talking about herself on her tv show!

[earth mom]

47. My question is where has Oprah been for the past 7 YEARS?!

In all those years, she hasn't done anything to expose the bastards in charge, did very little in 04 to get people to wake the hell up & kick the * cabal out of office.

Now she supports Obama. :wtf:

Sorry, but Obama is just more of the same. Oprah needs to listen to Harry Belafonte.

[MadBadger]

49. Her show is not about exposing the administration

Shes not on fucking MSNBC. That is not her job. She personally is inspired by Barack Obama, and that is the reason she is personally supporting him.

[earth mom]

50. Sorry, but Oprah's knows the power of her "personal opinion" & she is using it for all it's worth.

By promoting Obama, she is asking her supporters to trust her and buy the product she is selling, after she spent 7 years not looking out for anyone but herself.

To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

Oprah is acting in self interest and by doing so is not to be trusted at all.

[MadBadger]

51. Is Oprah advocating support for him on her show, or just on the trail?

[earth mom]

52. I'm pretty sure if she advocates for Obama on her show, she has to give other candidates air time.

Have you been to Oprahs message boards? There is NO politics section at all. She obviously doesn't want discussion of other candidates over there. I haven't been keeping up with it much, but it looks like Oprah is alienating her viewers by supporting Obama so publicly:

http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/9079?tstart=0

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

69. Oprah *chooses* not to take on the administration, her predecessor Donahue was very political

Donahue's show was just like hers for the housewives, but he chose to give it a lot of political content, just as she could choose to discuss politics on her show. And Donahue is of course a staunch liberal and would've had no problem siding unequivocally against Bush. Oprah's more concerned with not offending her conservative viewers, than she is about Bush's destruction of our country.

[ronnykmarshall]

60. She lost me when she went along with THIS fiasco!

The so called "Return to Love" tour of Diana Ross and two former Supremes she never sang with before.

Yup, I crossed ol' Oprah off my list after that.

[tammywammy]

61. Didn't one of the Supremes endorse Clinton?

I was sure you used to have a picture of Hillary and one of them (I can't remember)

[ronnykmarshall]

63. Mary Wilson did ..

and here's the pic.




I was supposed to see Mary in SF this weekend, but our plans got screwed up because of our on going saga of house buying/selling.

I wanted to make a copy of that pic and get Mary to sign it.



Here's Hillary a few weeks later when I saw her in West Hollywood.

GASP! The SAME outfit!

[tammywammy]

64. The same outfit!!

That's it, I'm totally not voting for her now. :)

That's a great picture of her and Mary Wilson. I remember your thread about seeing Hillary, you're definitely an enthusiastic supporter.

Too bad I'm in Texas, none of the candidates really come around here. x(

[ronnykmarshall]

65. You never know!

Come GE time you might get to see our nominee!

[tammywammy]

66. Indeed

[gulliver]

62. Look at Bush's eyes and mouth.

I know I don't like him, but that top image makes my skin crawl.

[Usrename]

67. I bet he fantasizes about Oprah when he's with Condi..

:scared:

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

70. Kissy kissy, makes me want to vomit n/t