When Edwards uses Black supporters to attack Obama/Oprah then that is sad. . .

[undercoverduer]

. . .why can't he attack them on his own? Why does he need to hide behind Black supporters to do it? Why do you some politicians think it effect to have Blacks attack other Blacks? This tactic stinks.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3807827#3807928

[Adelante]

Blacks attack blacks all the time

It's not a marching band. Just like women who criticize Clinton. Or any other segment of the population saying whatever. I don't see the problem with Edwards' surrogates in the AA community speaking, even if it's not to Obama's benefit. It's primary politics. :shrug:

[ixion]

1. And if Obama uses white supporters, or Hillary uses Hispanics, is that bad, too?

:eyes:

I think race should be left out of things all together. ;-)

[undercoverduer]

3. There is a difference. White supporters are not specifically used to attack white supporters. . .

. . .there is a post on the DU that claims that Edwards Black supporters call Oprah event a publicity stunt. Why is the race of the Edwards supporters relevent?

[ixion]

5. why is race relevant at all?

It shouldn't be: black/white/brown... it makes no difference. We're all humans here, except for those aliens who are merely disguised as humans. :evilgrin:

[Evergreen Emerald]

And that would be Dick Cheney?

Although, I have to say, he is not disguised very well.

[ixion]

12. I used to think it was just the vast majority of repubs, but after watching this congress capitulate

I think it's the lot of them.

Edit to add:
With the exception of Kucinich and the late Paul Wellstone, and perhaps a handful of others who still strike me as human.

[Botany]

2. Are you trying to start crap?

"Why do you some politicians think it effect to have Blacks attack other Blacks?"

I can see you are a gifted writer too.

[undercoverduer]

4. I didn't start the crap. . .

:kick:

[Donnachaidh]

6. you are the OP, right?

:eyes:

[undercoverduer]

10. Yes but I'm responding to other threads. . .

. . .I'm not the one who introduced that Oprah only endorsed Barack because they are both Black. . .tell me who is starting the shit.

[Botany]

8. Even if you didn't sart "it" your post is 100% flame bait.

the rules @ DU say you can not open a new thread to keep a fight from
an old thread going.

[cuke]

11. OP started three threads on the issue

I call flamebait

[Ninga]

7. Your OP is specious and inflammatory. How do you know what you assert? Did you

see Edwards hiding behind a person?

Do you have a photo?

I think your bark is worse than your bite. A paper tiger.

[mtnsnake]

9. WTF are you talking about? What's wrong w/Afr-American supporters who just happen to back Edwards?

From the sounds of it, Edwards didn't "use" anyone to attack Obama/Oprah. Those people are speaking their minds in support of their favorite candidate, Edwards. Sounds to me like you think Edwards doesn't deserve to have African American support or something or that you're insinuating that his own African American supporters aren't sincere. Gimme a break.

[undercoverduer]

13. White folks using Black folks to attack other Black folks is sad but expected in politics. . .

. . .'nuff said.

[mtnsnake]

19. How the hell did Edwards "use" them? What a condescending load of garbage

to say that those people are being used as if they're some kind of tools and as if they can't think for themselves.

Those people stuck up for Edwards on their own free will because they believe in what they're doing, not because of the crap you're accusing anyone of.

[Maccagirl]

14. This is the third thread you've started on the same subject

Enough already.

[undercoverduer]

17. No they are all different subjects, why are you trying to shut me up?

1) Calling out the Edwards campaign because they use Black supporters to attack Obama/Oprah

2) Calling out those on DU (currently 48% of respondents) who think Oprah only supports Barack because they are both Black

3) Pointing out the increased Obama/Oprah hate today

Three different subjects. . .trying to shut me up?

[prairierose]

15. Why do you assume that the state legislator...

quoted in the story was not speaking for herself but at the behest of the Edwards campaign? Is it not possible that she has her own ideas and can speak for herself? Is it not possible that she could be more interested in a candidate who speaks out on issues important for her area. Why would you assume that all African Americans will automatically support Obama and that any African American who supports a white candidate must be some kind of shill for the white candidate?

The truth is that Edwards is the only candidate talking about rural issues. Granted most of the population of this country is in urban areas but the rural areas make up the geographical majority. Rural areas have suffered from neglect since 1980. Before 1980, most of the farmers in this country were family farmers. Now, the majority of farms are corporations and large agribiz conglomerates. This is not good for the rural areas or for the country as a whole.

[Ninga]

16. ALL political campaigns operate in a continued state of chaos. Well meaning

volunteers, quasi spokesman, etc......say and do things that stray from the candidate's platform and message.

It happens to ALL campaigns, all candidates, all the time, every year, election after elections.

The people who make hay of any such missteps here, in DU, are either neophytes or detractors...or both.

[Catchawave]

18. Edwards supporters are free to speak on any issue

black-white-purple-whatever color they may be. Why turn this into some sort of racist concern?

I've been an Edwards supporter and campaign volunteer since 2003, and never once has he told any of us what to say.

Same goes for other candidates' supporters. It's called Freedom of Speech.

This is just nasty, nasty flamebait :(

[Snotcicles]

20. It's gutter posting. That is what they have been reduced to.

When you can't say something positive about your candidate obfuscate about the others.

[L84TEA]

21. Edwards supporter here... I say PURPLE damn it! nt. :)

[Bitwit1234]

22. So if you are black YOU have to support Obama??

Give me a damn break. All black people in this country aren't delusional. All black people have a right to choose who they want. Are the Obamaites going to start to bring race in this now. since Obama can't fly they are being stupid.

[undercoverduer]

23. Not at all but what I'm calling out is. . .

. . .the tactic of using Black folks to counter Black folks. I have no problem with Edwards having Black supporters but hopefully we care more about what those Black supporters have to say about OTHER RELEVENT issues, not just Obama/Oprah.

[msongs]

24. megarich median corporations like HARPO Inc are in it for the ratings and the money nt

[ladjf]

25. I don't that that strategy was sad. It seemed like an effective

and fair position to take considering that Obama was definitely playing his "race card".

[tammywammy]

26. Edwards isn't using black supporters

A black supporter of Edwards just happened to say what he thinks. I doubt Edwards had anything to do with this.