The Nation: "COULD CLINTON FINISH 3RD IN IOWA? YES."

[Stop Cornyn]

The Nation's COULD CLINTON FINISH 3RD IN IOWA? YES.

"Check out the new Insider Advantage poll numbers from the first caucus state.

Illinois Senator Barack Obama is at 32 percent, finally moving outside margin-of-error territory to a clear lead.

Clinton is still in second, with 25 percent. But she is no longer the master of the position. Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards is tied with the former front-runner among likely Democratic presidential caucus participants.

No one else matters much. Joe Biden's at 5 percent, Bill Richardson 3 percent, and Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich 1 percent each.

With Obama apparently closing in on Clinton in New Hampshire, if the latest polling out of the first primary state is right, the senator from New York has a serious problem.

A third-place finish in Iowa and a loss in New Hampshire is not a strong start on a front-loaded primary schedule.

And Obama might want to keep the champagne on ice for a little longer. Midwestern activists with the UNITE-HERE union, which has a strong presence in the region, have been given the go-ahead by the union's national leadership -- which has yet to endorse -- to launch a major campaign on behalf of Edwards in Iowa. And Edwards is about to open an intensive cross-state campaign swing that will be coupled with a television advertising campaign that, while it may not match the spending levels of the Obama and Clinton campaign, should be competitive.

Imagine this scenario: An Edwards win in Iowa, an Obama win in New Hampshire, an Edwards win in the January 19 Nevada caucuses if he scores an endorsement from the muscular UNITE-HERE Culinary Workers local in Las Vegas, an Obama win in the January 29 South Carolina primary where his strong Iowa and New Hampshire finishes will help him ease concerns about his candidacy among older African-American voters, and Clinton desperately looking for solid ground."

[Radical Activist]

1. That's what I've been predicting for the last 6 months.

Yes, it will happen.

[Jim Sagle]

2. Yess!!! One empty pantsuit down and one empty suit to go!

[calteacherguy]

4. The country is not looking neither for what Clinton nor Edwards is offering.

It's time for a change.

[silverojo]

7. Edwards IS the change

He cares about the poor. Obama speaks hardly a word about them. :(

[caligirl]

9. so trueafter the damage Bush has done a populist is the best way to go to take Corporate control

away from government and politics. Business friendly politicians aren't what will fix what ails our government, NOLA's failed recovery, health care, the military industrial complex, and even the food industry(Conagra and the like). Oil companies that own politicians to the extent they can start wars and control oil prices. Edwards is the person I am most conmfortable with in ending the era of corporate control and corporate vote in government.

[Jim Sagle]

10. And when he does, it's indirect but negative - that's what his blasting of 60s activists is about.

[ingac70]

11. Another dillweed that voted to let Bush attack Iraq....

is change?

:puke:

[caligirl]

13. support your candidate_ stop dissing mine, we still have the gen election to come and it might

be best if we were still speaking then. I like Obama, in fact I talked him up to people. Ultimately I chose Edwards_ without insulting your guy.

[ingac70]

14. Sorry. I just have issues with folks that put....

us in this situation (Iraq). I also feel having one of them as the nominee takes away the Democrats credibility about ending this war.

[caligirl]

15. apology accepted. this is a long process that withers the most diehard among us. rebuilding this

country will take all of us on a long journey. the 2004 election turned some of us off and we had Du'ers who turned against others in passionate support of their guy. In the end we have to come together, as a Dean supporter I accepted Kerry too, to save our country. The more important goal can't be put out of view for a moment. 2004 was tough, this shouldn't be as tough as we have a better chance of winning, many things have changed.Obama has his greatness, I would be happy for him to win. I would be happier for Edwards for the corporate fighting that needs to happen.

[ingac70]

16. I'm a Richardson supporter...

Obama doesn't impress me either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3807436

But I will vote for who I am stuck with come the GE.

[caligirl]

17. Saw richardson at the emerald bowl almost two years ago, Navy played a team from his state.

Richardson's terrific.

[cali]

19. I'm sure he does. But not enough to pass up working for and

investing in a completely scummy hedge fund only 2 years ago. And he's taken substantial donations from Fortress as well. His record in the Senate doesn't reflect on him much more favorably as concerns issues of poverty. Words are fine. Actions speak.

[Hieronymus]

21. Absolutely, Edwards is the best chance we have. Change is what we need ..

not more of the same with Hillary.

[Tejanocrat]

3. Ouch: "No one else matters much. Joe Biden's at 5 percent, Bill Richardson 3 percent ..."

[K Gardner]

23. Yeah, that hurt... ::sniff::: n/t

[Carrieyazel]

5. A bad omen for Obama. Being ahead in an Iowa poll is almost always bad luck.

Iowa winners usually come from behind.

[ingac70]

6. I hope so!

Though I'd prefer her finish to be even lower.

[caligirl]

8. Me too.

[Quixote1818]

12. She could finish 4th

Edwards
Obama
Biden
Clinton
Richardson
Kucinich
Dodd
Gravel

[Bitwit1234]

18. Ha ha ha if Hillary Clinton finishes third Obama will be more than dead last.

[Perry Logan]

20. No one ever said Iowans were bright.

[Stop Cornyn]

22. Actually, people have said "they seem to be the most informed voters on the planet."

Source: http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2007/11/08/iowa-does-it-have-the-most-informed-voters-on-the-planet/

I'm not suggesting that Iowans are especially smart or that Iowa should get the host the first in the nation caucus in the future (I think it should rotate), but they do clearly take pride in that role and study up.

[weeve]

24. Let's hope THIRD PLACE is optimistic.

An Edwards/Obama ticket in the general would be unbeatable. Let's hope enough smart Democrats realize the huge risk that Hillary as nominee would be. Edwards is the right person for the job right now, but since Obama has the rock star thing going on, I suppose I might eventually learn to live with an Obama/Edwards ticket, if I must.

[Beacool]

25. Who cares?

Months ago she was advised to not even bother with Iowa. She doesn't need Iowa, or even NH as long as she has the rest of the NE (which so far she has and by a wide margin), CA and NV.

[Eurobabe]

26. 3rd or worse, look for one of the "second" tier

candidates to get their mo and surpass her before January 3rd.