New Hampshire's Concord Monitor agrees with Obama on the false "mandate" issue

[ClarkUSA]

Editorial

Don't get sidetracked by the mandate debate
Monitor staff
December 07. 2007 12:40AM


The great health care mandate debate is a sideshow. Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and John Edwards insist that
forcing individuals to buy a policy is crucial to providing universal health care or something close to it. Rival Barack Obama disagrees.
A mandate may be necessary to force those who refuse to sign up once affordable options are available, he says, but that step should
come at the end of the march to universal care, not at the beginning.

The debate has degenerated into arguments over who is or isn't being honest with voters. The question voters should focus on is which
candidate, if elected, can convince enough Republicans - who will use words like "confiscation" to describe any mandate - to go along
with a plan. The next question should be: Is this plan the best and most affordable path to universal coverage?

On the honesty question, when it comes to health care mandates, the edge goes to Obama. He rightly says they force people to buy
something before they know what it will cost and how good it will be, and many won't comply...

Government mandates have been used to force people to buy auto insurance, immunize their children, pay child support and pay workers a
minimum wage. But compliance rates, according to the journal Health Affairs, are far from universal; just 77 to 85 percent for immunization
and 30 percent for child support. Some studies have found that despite mandates, about 20 percent of people still don't buy auto insurance,
which is why the rest have to pay extra to guard against uninsured motorists.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/OPINION/712070340/1270/NEWS97

Former Clinton Secretary of Labor and Social Security Trust Fund trustee Robert Reich has already noted that:

But in my view Obama’s would insure more people, not fewer, than HRC’s. That’s because Obama’s puts more money up front and
contains sufficient subsidies to insure everyone who’s likely to need help – including all children and young adults up to 25 years old.
Hers requires that everyone insure themselves.

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-is-hrc-stooping-so-low.html

It's easy to see that if noncompliance rates are anything like those in other mandate situations, the Clinton plan will also leave millions or even
tens of millions uninsured. (We can get 15 million uninsured by taking about 5% noncompliance for the country or about 30% noncompliance
for presently uninsured, and we would be as likely to be right as any other expert.) The bottom line is that we have little reason to think that
mandates are important, and that Obama is open to considering them if experience proves they will help.

[David Dunham]

1. Obama's in deep trouble on this issue. That's a fact.

[AX10]

2. Agreed! He also will have trouble with Social Security too.

[Pirate Smile]

3. No, that is your opinion.

[ClarkUSA]

9. How is that a "fact"?

Sounds like another Hillaryworld opinion to me.

[zulchzulu]

4. Let's look at what the term "mandate" means

man·date
n.
1. An authoritative command or instruction.
2. A command or an authorization given by a political electorate to its representative.

I have asked Clinton supporters just how mandated healthcare insurance (attempted like in 1993) is going to either get implemented or get passed as law. All I get is the usual schoolyard name-calling and other childish antics. No answer...just bullshit.

[Progress And Change]

5. how will Obama pass HIS mandate?

I know Obama supporters tend to be short on knowledge of their candidate's policies but Obama being for a mandate (for millions of parents) while vociferously denouncing mandates (for all adults) is one of the biggest contradictions and instance of double talk in his campaign...

[BeyondGeography]

6. Listen to yourself

You doubt that Obama can get his relatively narrow mandate for childrens coverage (the least expensive kind of insurance) passed but you implicitly support programs that apply mandates across the board. How do you think THOSE programs will be passed?

[Progress And Change]

7. both mandates can be passed. i was pointing out Obama's double talk and deception on mandates...

[ClarkUSA]

10. What "double talk" and "deception"?

Explain, Mario.

[calteacherguy]

8. I agree with Obama.

Keep mandates on the table, but focus on making coverage more affordable first.

It's dangerous to view mandates as a cure-all. There is no need to get hung up on a politcal fight over mandates when they may not even be useful. Focus on lowering costs and prevention, not poltically divisive mandates.

Obama will make coverage affordable for everyone. His is the more realistic and honest plan.