Why doesnÕt Nader just support Kucinich?

[Bushknew]

I saw MTP and agreed with almost everything Ralph said but why not support Kucinich
this time around?

Please respond with something other than the EGO charge.

[spooky3]

1. That is a good question only he can answer. Too bad Timmy didn't ask.

[hippywife]

2. He did back Kucinich and wasn't going to run

until the Dem Party chose to totally ignore Kucinich.

[mgc1961]

5. I think...

...there's a lot of truth to that. If DK hadn't been marginalized and ignored by the party leadership I'm certain Mr. Nader would have stayed out of the race.

[LandOLincoln]

7. Madame, the Democratic party did not "ignore" Dennis Kucinich,

the VOTERS ignored Kucinich, just as they mostly ignored Wes Clark and Howard Dean.

And as a loyal Democrat who prefers to work for change the right way, i.e. WITHIN the Democratic party, Dennis Kucinich should renounce Nader and his obvious machinations immediately IMO.

[Mairead]

10. Yes, the Party DID and DOES ignore Dennis Kucinich

The voters have hardly even heard of him. Why do you suppose even a lifelong Dem activist asked after listening to him in person "Why aren't we hearing about him?"

If the Party were playing it straight, they would have been loudly demanding equal coverage for every candidate right from the start. Instead they kept silent and let the corporate media choose whom to cover, with completely predictable results.

[mgc1961]

13. Amen...

...to that. I can't recall the number of people I've spoken to who haven't even heard of DK. When I tell them about him they can't believe he doens't get more attention.

The press has "chosen" the candidates without the Party making any serious effort to have all the candidates heard.

[hippywife]

14. The majority of voters

don't do the leg and finger work that we all do. They vote on name recognition and who is leading the polls and prior primaries only.

And you can drop that condescending "Madame" bullshit. I've played nice until this point but I'm sick of the middle of the roaders acting like they have the upper hand. You may have it temporarily but never underestimate the conviction of the true progressives. There will be a revolution in this country one way or the other.

After November, the gloves are off completely. Once the coronation is over, there will be feet held to the fire like never before. Because if there isn't real change, kiss the tentative power the Dem Party has enjoyed good-bye. Electing the wrong Dem is going to make that a thing of the past. The Dems may never see the light of day in the Congress or WH again. And then, then...the true revolution will begin out of pure necessity.

[Bushknew]

17. <<After November, the gloves are off completely>>

"After November, the gloves are off completely. Once the coronation is over, there will be feet held to the fire like never before. Because if there isn't real change, kiss the tentative power the Dem Party has enjoyed good-bye. Electing the wrong Dem is going to make that a thing of the past. The Dems may never see the light of day in the Congress or WH again. And then, then...the true revolution will begin out of pure necessity."

Amen hippywife, I will also be an outspoken critic of a Repug lite administration.

But first things first, Bush must be defeated.

[minkyboodle]

23. After November, the gloves are off completely

Wow what a great way to put it hippywife. I agree 100 percent. This is the last election that I'm playing this game.
Scott

[comradebillyboy]

3. cuz he aint ralph nader

only saint ralph is pure enough to redeem america

[mac2]

4. He may think..he has a better chance to get the message.....

out if Dennis is out of the race after the convention. He would be a third party to debate Kerry and Bush.

He suppports Kucinich..the Greens do also.

[Tinoire]

9. Another nonesense post

Congratulations. Wrong answer. Grab the consolation prize and go home. You lose.

Nader was even touring with Kucinich.

[Tinoire]

6. He did. DLC, Centrists & DNC didn't care.

Nader even went as far as saying that if Dean got the nomination he wouldn't run because Dean had a real populist movement behind him.

DLC, Centrists & DNC wouldn't listen.

Their problem now. Not mine. Hope they're happy.

[Bushknew]

16. Desperation

I wanted to vote for Nader in 2000 but didnÕt and I sure as hell wouldnÕt vote for him
in 2004; however, someone has to tell the truth of how beholden BOTH parties are to corporations.

Even though IÕm a Kucinich supporter, I would have happily voted for Dean. It makes me sick
that it looks like IÕm going to have to vote for John "voted for the war skull and bones" Kerry.

Still, having Bush in the Whitehouse is more painful than having a Repug light Democrat.

[bobthedrummer]

8. I remember Nader stating that he would not run if Kucinich

was the Democratic nominee. I also agree with a lot of what he said and I did vote for Nader in 2000 but I'm ABB this time. I voted for Dennis Kucinich in Wisconsin last week.

I'm flameproof, Nader voters did not cause the sElection {complicated it yes} that installed George W. Bush. Don't blame me for your Party's power struggles:puke:

Since it appears that DK will not be the nominee Nader is running-I am suspicious of the timing {Dean announcement} but I think most independents will get on the ABB train because George W. Bush has got to go.

[Mairead]

11. He does support Kucinich!

He made it plain: if DK is the nominee, Nader will support, not oppose him. Actually, I believe Nader said he'd even campaign for DK.

There's still time! Seventy-five percent of all delegate slots remain to be allocated.

[JHBowden]

12. Nader wants to get the Dean voters now.

Dean pulled out a few days ago, and Nader thinks he can tap into some of that support while they're still grieving. While a Kucinich endorsement is logical, Nader is thinking politically.

[bushwakker]

15. Too logical

[NewYorkerfromMass]

18. Because Kucinich doesn't have a chance winning

and Nader does. Obviously that must be why.

[George_Bonanza]

19. Why does Nader support Dean?

For all his convenient posturing as a populist demagogue, Dean is still as establishment as they come in his policies such as NAFTA, AIPAC, death penalty, etc. Oh, is he suddenly going to become the one candidate that keeps every promise to his voting base out of the kindness of his heart?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. When you ask a question, it's not fair to exclude the only correct answer.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

21. Well.... Nader doesn't really believe in his supposed agenda

he's is a Bush enabler. That is the only other possible reason.

[Bushknew]

22. Ego / paid spoiler

So, Nader has fought for the little guy his entire life just to inflate his ego or heÕs just really
being paid off by Republicans to be a spoiler.

Please

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. False premise

Nader hasn't 'fought for the little guy his entire life'.

A long, long, long time ago, Nader did great work as a consumer advocate.


A long, long, long time ago.

Ralph Nader has done a lot of good for consumers. He has also led attacks on such evils as Volkswagen cars, the American Automobile Association, whole milk, colored toilet paper, fluoridated water, and the Elvis stamp. Through it all he has manipulated the press brilliantly and built himself a comfortable and powerful niche without need for election, even within his own consumer groups.

4 years after he unquestionably tipped the 2000 Presidential election to George W. Bush, Nader refuses to admit that or take any kind of responsibility, and he's planning to run again. This time though even the Green party is getting sick of him.

For 30 years, Ralph Nader has proclaimed himself to be "Saint Ralph", the only honest man in Washington, and the only friend of the average citizen.
More: http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

[mmonk]

24. impossible to respond

without the ego charge. It's all about him.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. No. He is working for the GOP

It's all about defeating the Democrats.