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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:13 PM
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Utah Statistics are the Worst in the Nation for Depression, Rape, Child Abuse
And Romney is worried about non-believers?



Utah Statistics are the Worst in the Nation for Depression, Rape, Child Abuse, etc.



Statistics in Utah still reflect a discouraging, negative social atmosphere

Latter-day Saints believe Mormonism produces emotional health. It that were true, Utah (which is two-thirds Mormon) should have the lowest rates of crime, divorce, and child abuse. Instead they have the highest rates in the nation!

Divorces per 1,000 Population Utah-4.60 MA-2.40 NY -3.20 NJ-3.0

Murder per 100,000 Pop. Utah-3.90 NH-1.70 IO-1.70 ND-0.90

Rape per 100,000 Pop. Utah-42.70 NY -23.70 CA-33.40 VA-27.20

*Source US Census Bureau


http://www.mormon.citymax.com/statistics.html
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:17 PM
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1. Repression leads to depression....
n/t
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:17 PM
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2. holy crap
rape is double per capita in utah then it is in NY? now that is scary. goes to show you what sexual repression will do to you.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:19 PM
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3. I'm not sure these statistics can be BLAMED on Mormonism.
That's faulty logic, and it smacks a bit of prejudice--it's like looking at Detroit's crime rate (highest in the nation) and high percentage of black people (greater than any other major city) and concluding, well, where there's black people, there's crime, ergo black culture produces lawlessness.

Obviously there are probably other factors at work--local economies for example.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:27 PM
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4. Well, Utah is about the Reddest state in the nation
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 07:30 PM by Quixote1818
so maybe that is it?

However, the Mormon religion is very, very old school and tends to put a lot of emphasis on male dominance. I go to a Mormon family reunion in Utah every year (My Dad's Mom was Mormon and raised in rural Utah) and I will tell you right out that if they are not Jack Mormons but traditional Mormons, they are NUTS! Luckily most are Jack Mormons and they are mostly really cool people. My Great Grand Parents have around 2,000 grand children, great grand children and great-great grand children. Many of them have been married and divorced several times and at every reunion everyone talks about is getting divorced from whom because he was either screwing around, beating her or screwing the livestock. And I am being 100% truthful when I say that. I have several relatives who caught their husbands with the pig or the sheep or the cow.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:32 PM
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5. Or looking at Wall Street, with its predominance of white male CEOS....
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 07:33 PM by marmar
... and all of the corporate crime, and determining that white male culture produces corporate criminals.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:35 PM
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6. Exactly?
I can't tell if you're agreeing or being sarcastic here.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:37 PM
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7. Agreeing....but using a different demographic sample group.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:46 PM
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10. Ah. Gotcha.
After all, I myself am a white male, and I have yet to be arrested for insider trading.

:hi:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:41 PM
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8. it's all those pesky non-mormons committing all the moral no no's?? nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:42 PM
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9. ironically, it may mean Mormons are more enlightened on the topic of depression
The high statistics could reflect that Mormons aren't willing to ignore depression or sweep it under the rug, and have a more open acceptance of the mental illness. Mississippi might for example, show lower rates of depression, not because depression is actually lower (I suspect it is considerably higher) but because Southern Baptism is repressive towards the mentally ill, blaming mental illness on personal sins and weak character, rather than treating it as an illness.

The same could be said about divorce and child abuse. Divorces are probably more prevalent in Protestant heavy states, like Utah or the South, because Protestants have more enlightened attitudes about the idea of forcing two people to stay married when they obviously shouldn't. Notice that divorce rates tend to be lowest in states with high Catholic percentages like New York and Massachusetts, likely because of the Catholic hierarchy's primitive view on marriage and divorces. Likewise, child abuse statistics are highest in those states where the community desire to expose and convict child molesters is higher than in states where they tend to ignore it or hope it goes away.

Don't know about murder though. I do know the murder rate in Utah is far higher among the non-Mormon third of the population than among the Mormon population (the Indian reservations of Utah have the highest community murder rates in the US).

So the statistics may not be revealing the whole truth, and on deeper thought, may even make the Mormon state look pretty good.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:50 PM
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11. Isn't it LEGALLY near impossible to get a divorce in New York State?
You have to prove infidelity, mistreatment, or demonstrable incompatibility, right?

Otherwise, yer stuck. Or am I wrong? Don't have a spare moment do wikify this...
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:00 PM
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12. The Indian Population in Utah is only 29,000
Even if the murder rate among Indians is off the charts it would be a blip in the statistics of a state with 2.5 Million people.

http://www.onlineutah.com/indianpopulation2.shtml



Can you post a link that shows that the murder rate is higher among the "non-Mormon" third of the population? I don't know how they could even come up with a statistic like that. Police don't ask murderers and rapists what their religion is.



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