Iowa Today: Obama - 32% , Edwards 25%, Hillary 25%, Biden 5%, Richardson 3%, Kucinich 1%, Dodd 1%

[Tejanocrat]

If the 2008 Democratic presidential caucus were held today between, Joeseph Biden, Hillary Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson, for whom would you vote?

Barack Obama 32%
Hillary Clinton 25%
John Edwards 25%
Joseph Biden 5%
Bill Richardson 3%
Chris Dodd 1%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Undecided 8%

P.S. - God bless Dodd and Kucinich for standing tough and fighting for progressive agendas.

[youthere]

1. The latest Zogby shows Dennis with a gain.

Biden too. Edwards stayed the same, and everyone else lost ground. I hope this signal good things for Dennis (and Joe) in Iowa.

[gateley]

2. Thank you - it's so nice to see the second tier included in polls! nt

[kenfrequed]

5. Too true!!

How often the pollsters seem to discount dark horses nad second tiers.

[robbedvoter]

8. Only the convenient second - Gravel is once again excluded...

[MNDemNY]

3. When I look at the issues part,

I have to wonder why Dennis is not winning.

[Tejanocrat]

4. Me two. If a crazy son-of-a-bitch like Huckabee can catch fire, why can't a great guy like Dennis?

[kenfrequed]

7. Dennis will do better

He is in the best position to beat the expectation game and surge.

Of course the media would have to play ball with it.

[Tejanocrat]

9. Hope you're right!

[kenfrequed]

30. Well

It doesn't even require his campaign to go out and sell short.

However the expectation game only woks if the media pays attention to it.

[gateley]

6. I don't think Dennis is campaigning in Iowa, so people aren't getting the chance

to meet with him face to face and get to know him.

[tammywammy]

12. Dennis isn't campaigning in Iowa

I think he's concentrating on NH.

[Tejanocrat]

31. It's a shame that campaign finances impose such choices.

[ClarkUSA]

10. Thanks for another credible poll.

Hillary's attacks seem to be helping -----------------> Obama and Edwards


:toast:

[rinsd]

13. So a republican polling firm is more credible than the other polls?

:shrug:

Not discounting the results but it would seem you associate credibility with confirming your own feelings.

[ClarkUSA]

17. It is is more credible than the old phony polls Pete Daou and Mark Penn tried to palm off on Monday.

And to discount a republican polling firm's results is as ridiculous as a freeper discounting Democratic polling firm results.

[rinsd]

32. No, I was discounting your theory of credibility as it applies to polls. .

"And to discount a republican polling firm's results is as ridiculous as a freeper discounting Democratic polling firm results"

Except I didn't. I thought your assertion was ridiculous.

Old & Phony polls? Those polls had just been released and one of them was conducted by Pew Research.

Of course their time frame should be taken into account. And it was.

[earthlover]

20. Gee...Hillary Supporters liked Strategic Vision when Hillary was way ahead!

Now the picture has changed!

date Clinton Edwards Obama

11/9-12 29 25 27

11/23-25 29 23 29

11/30-12/2 25 25 32


Regardless of the poll, it uses the same methodology. So, when you see the same poll get different results, it shows trends.

Clinton down....Edwards steady.....Obama up. Those are the trends according to Strategic Vision.

Doesn't matter if it is a Democratic poll, Republican, or Independent....comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges, we see that Clinton is going down and Obama is going up according to this poll.

Which tends to go along with other polls. Face it, Hillary used to be so far out front that you would need a telescope to she her back side. Now the race is trending towards Obama. I don't think any serious observer could disagree with this. Now how long this trend will continue, whether it will be permanent or temporary or whatever, is subject to speculation. But right now, for more than a few days, this has been the trend. In Iowa. In NH. And in National polls.

It is time for the Hillary backers to bash Obama some more! Go for it!

[ClarkUSA]

22. lol

earthlover, I like your style. Thanks for watching my back. :toast:

[rinsd]

33. I posted SV dozens of times always with the caveat of their leanings.

And I wasn't arguing the trend.

Merely the moronic suggestion that this poll is somehow more credible because it confirmed the other posters preconceived notions.

[DLnyc]

11. Also interesting: even repubs want us out of Iraq

(from link in OP: http://www.strategicvision.biz/political/iowa_poll_120607.htm )

Even (Iowa) Republicans apparently want the US to get the hell out of Iraq:

4. Do you favor a withdrawal of all United States
military from Iraq within the next six months? (Republicans Only)
Yes 50%
No 38%
Undecided 12%

(and dems even more so:
6. Do you favor a withdrawal of all United States
military from Iraq within the next six months? (Democrats Only)
Yes 83%
No 6%
Undecided 11%
)

[David Zephyr]

14. Oh my goodness, Joe Biden has now passed Bill Richardson.

Something is happening with Senator Biden...he is catching on.

[jefferson_dem]

16. The millions dollar question is...

where will his support go (and that of Bill, Chris, and Dennis, for that matter) when their candidate fails to achieve that 15% viability benchmark.

[earthlover]

21. I sure hope so! Go Biden Go!!!!

[Pirate Smile]

27. That is not a surprise. If anyone has a chance of breaking out of the second tier in Iowa it is

Biden.

[DaLittle Kitty]

15. Obama Trying to Have it Both Ways?

Obama Calls Iran a Threat to World Peace
by John McCormick
Chicago Tribune

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=12916

Seeking to woo Jewish votes and contributions, Sen. Barack Obama told an audience in Chicago on Friday that he considers Iran "one of the greatest threats to the United States, Israel and world peace" and pledged he would try to end Tehran's uranium-enrichment program.

Wow and Obama was a No Show for the Kyle Amendment? Guess we know where he stands now.:spank:

[maximusveritas]

28. That's not nearly as bad as what Edwards said

Do you want to post it or should I?

[maximusveritas]

29. Here are his killer quotes

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Edwards_Iran_must_know_world_wont_0123.html

"The challenges in your own backyard – rise of Islamic radicalism, use of terrorism, and the spread of nuclear technology and weapons of mass destruction – represent an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel.

At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For years, the US hasn’t done enough to deal with what I have seen as a threat from Iran."

"The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and if they trust their president. So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."

:wow:
Wow indeed

[AnotherGreenWorld]

34. I'm surprised you're still here.

[maximusveritas]

35. Why?

Because I'm too sane and well-informed to be in a place like this? That's probably true. But I like to come back every now and then just to give some people a reality check.

[DaLittle Kitty]

37. Hey Max... Well Put & Nicely Said!

Gotta Get ... The Truthout!:think:

[crikkett]

18. Sigh. god bless Dennis Kucinich.

[Nimrod2005]

19. Obama is starting to run away with it!!! Great news for America!

[ClarkUSA]

23. Alternative Subject Title: Obama Increases Lead In Iowa: 32-25-25

Keep attacking Obama with that sourpuss expression we all know so well, Hillary! Iowans are really being swayed by your politics of personal destruction --
right into Obama's column.

:rofl:

[jillan]

24. Hey, hey - Biden moved up to 4th place!

woot!!!!!

He's staying around for NH! Yes!!

[Colobo]

25. Beautiful!

[calteacherguy]

26. Obama's lead is outside the MOE. Fantastic! nt

[Imagevision]

36. Also ---> Clinton lead narrows in New Hampshire: poll

<snip> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton's lead over rival Barack Obama in New Hampshire has narrowed to single digits a month before the state's primary election, said a poll released on Wednesday.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll showed the U.S. senator from New York leading Obama 35 percent to 29 percent in the race for New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation primary on January 8. The survey had a 4 percentage point error margin.

Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards was in third place with 17 percent, followed by New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson at 10 percent
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071206/pl_nm/usa_politics_clinton_dc enjoy...

[Hieronymus]

38. Happy to see Edwards doing so well.