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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:34 PM
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Nader slams BU's 'apathetic' students
Four-time presidential candidate Ralph Nader said yesterday the biggest political crisis facing Americans is their own lack of civic involvement, citing inactive students as a thorn in democracy's side.

Nader chastised apathetic students at Boston University and called on them to vote in the 2008 presidential election.

"There's a great deal of apathy here at BU," he told 200 people in Metcalf Hall. "It's a generic deprecation of the human mind."


http://media.www.dailyfreepress.com/media/storage/paper87/news/2007/12/05/News/Nader.Slams.Bus.apathetic.Students-3133636.shtml

He's calling on people to vote, but then he's probably going to want people to throw their votes away and vote for him! Sounds like a generic deprecation of human responsibility to me.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:35 PM
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1. Voting for Nader = apathy.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:35 PM
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2. Nader's trying to blame the current problems on someone else other than himself
He's the reason Bush is in office.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:41 PM
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3. I wish Nader would exhibit a lack of Civic Involvement himself.
:puke:
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:18 PM
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4. Nader's right
I think he's pointing to something here that the Limo Libs and the right are really fucking terrified of; a mobilized citizenry.

I think both parties are terrified of the people in this country taking a "I am my brothers keeper" outlook on society. The fact that neither of them can misdirect our class anger towards single mothers and immigrants. God forbid they lose complete control.

ANd that's really what it comes down to. The people not seeing government and government programs as something alien that they have no control over.

The reality of the matter is that no matter who is in office or heading the courts, the people are the ultimate authority.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:59 PM
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6. Does being your brother's keeper involved letting the Republicans cut social programs...
...because you're trying to make a statement about things like how you think there should be instant runoff voting or whatever people propose as a reason that they should toss out their vote?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:00 PM
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7. Only Republicans are guilty of that?
Who decided we should "end welfare as we know it"?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:03 PM
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8. They do it much worse than Democrats.
A lot of people end up falling in between that "little difference" that Nader claims is between the Democrats and Republicans.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:09 PM
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9. They seem to work hand in hand on a lot of issues
Stemming from bankruptcy reform, taft hartly, right to work laws and welfare reform. Take that and add in the lastest scapegoating of illegal immigrants.

Don't act as if it's any better because the guy hacking the program just happens to have a "D" on his jersey. Tell that to the people who have to deal with the repercussions.

Blaming Nader, especially when he's right on this issue, is just disengenous. In the same breath ridiculous when requesting welfare votes from people you are denying welfare to.

Why not advocate that Democrats actually do something to earn the votes instead of waffeling for them ala Jon Edwards, Jow Biden, Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton come election time.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:10 PM
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12. And?
They don't work hand-in-hand on others.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 PM
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5. This is why I'm convinced that in philosophical physics, irony cannot form a supercritical mass.
If it could, Nader, most of the Republican congresscritters, and any Bush administration official which had given a press conference would each explode from the sudden energetic release of their own hypocrisy.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:10 PM
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10. It Isn't Apathy, It is Despair, and Ralph Nader Is One of the Causes of It!
Ralph Nader, whom most of us once admired for his activism,
made the 2000 election close enough to steal by running a DELIBERATE spoiler campaign.

Since then, the Bush** regime has been shredding democracy and the Constitution.
Democrats have done little or nothing to stop him.

Is it any wonder that people are a bit disillusioned?

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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:13 PM
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13. I thought it was voter fraud
I get it.

Nobody wants to take the bigots to task for that!!!!

Blaming Nader all day for 2000 is just running away from the problem. I've always been angry at the Dem sentators who dropped the Democratic Black Caucaus on it's ass in the senate that day. What a freakin dissapointment.

Nader didn't force this party to tuck it's tail that day.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:20 PM
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14. If an election is to be stolen by voter fraud, a close race is essential
Nader narrowed the gap by siphoning voters away from the Dems. No, he is not THE cause, but he is A cause of the 2000 Theft.

He took Republican money and ran agressively in states where the margin was expected to be close. These are the actions of a Republican operative.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:10 PM
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11. Ah I remember the good old days when this would have triggered 200 responses an hour
:popcorn:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:07 PM
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15. Was that when he was running?
Usually when I just post a news article I get maybe about what I got now. They usually don't erupt.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:20 PM
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16. Nader tends to forget what college students are interested in...
Most are buried in study, papers, tests, and all most all suffer from a tremendous lack of sleep.

During their spare moments, many party(to relieve tension of course), and some get involved in different kinds of social involvement.

Almost none of today's college students realize what a great car the Corvair was.

Nader is as usual, out of his friggin mind.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:28 PM
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17. Nader is a tool.
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