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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:19 PM
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If you were a Senator running for president, and a vote on attacking Iraq came up...
Would you vote for it? Or against it?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:20 PM
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1. Would you co-sponsor it?
Write op-eds in favor of it?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:22 PM
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2. Or maybe he would wait to test the political waters before going on meet the press:
MR. RUSSERT: You were not in the Senate in October of 2002. You did give a speech opposing the war. But Senator Clinton’s campaign will say since you’ve been a senator there’s been no difference in your record. And other critics will say that you’ve not been a leader against the war, and they point to this: In July of ‘04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of ‘04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it.

SEN. OBAMA: Now, Tim, that first quote was made with an interview with a guy named Tim Russert on MEET THE PRESS during the convention when we had a nominee for the presidency and a vice president, both of whom had voted for the war. And so it, it probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21738432


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:25 PM
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4. You're a Very Silly Person
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:29 PM
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6. Thanks for proving me right Manny! You're always so good at that.
Obama claims to be against the war in your videos, then claims that he doesn't know how he would have voted if he was in the senate. It all ties back to his amazing ability to vote based on politics, not principle (another wonderful example: His illinois legislature abortion votes).
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:30 PM
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9. When The Movie Is Made, You'll be Payed By
Terry Gilliam
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:35 PM
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10. Oh goodie, I'll be getting payed?
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 10:35 PM by Lirwin2
Ok, but make sure Obama has enough cash left in his PAC to pay me with, I heard those endorsements cost quite a bit.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:22 PM
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3. No
Of course not.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:26 PM
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5. You would have have to dug deep & read the splash page on Smirking Chimp
a few times a week to reach the correct conclusion that the Iraq WMD thing was all bullshit. That was probably too hard for the Senators.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:30 PM
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8. *Most* Congressional Democrats Voted Against The War
Amazing, huh?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:41 PM
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11. Quite a few important ones voted for it. I credit the whole thing to hysteria
and jingoism. Very few such as DK really had studied the problem (probably was reading Smirking Chimp or the actual Knight Ridder source material)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:29 PM
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7. I vote against it because
it's an illegal and immoral bombing.. and people will die, and be scarred and traumatized for the rest of their lives.

I couldn't live with that.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:16 PM
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12. I'd need a lot more information
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 11:19 PM by maddiejoan
--then what you provide.

Alternately, I could be like Obama --sit the vote out --and then make an announcement afterwards about it.

If you're talking about IWR in 2002 --it wasn't a vote to invade. (BTW I'd have voted no on IWR)
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