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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:12 PM Original message |
Why does anyone in their right mind care about what Oprah and Streisand have to say |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Like it or not, Oprah has clout. She can propel a book to the top |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. A book |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Didn't say it was, did I? |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
121. Cali...it just might bring out the old bigots |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Babs will give whoever she has endorsed (I hadn't heard) |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Because a couple of generations have now grown up watching... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. lol |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Mercy bo-coopie! |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. People trust Oprah. She has been coming into their living rooms for over a decade now. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Who's "people"? |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Well you're real high above the fray. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. You're not even making sense now |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. You make "sense" to me.. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. You have to think in terms of averages |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. A decade? She's been around for about 25 years and her |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
73. And Oprah had that |
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Fed_Up_Grammy (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. I have a tendency to NOT vote for show-biz favorites. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. and they are both women with nary a thought in their heads |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yeah, right. Oprah is a philanthropist, humanitarian, and so much more than |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. That doesn't give her infallible political savvy... eom |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. It gives her more gravitas than Streisand. n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. Sorry, but Streisand is not in the same league as Oprah. Not even close. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Please explain...they're in completely different areas of |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Oprah is not just an entertainer... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Your post seemed to be a slight to Babs, who, like it or not |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. It's just a fact of their ability to influence people... |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Streisand has a foundation that has donated millions to liberal causes |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Good for her. Let's see if her fans know that about her and take her endorsement as a reason to |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. You asked what good she's done, I wasn't addressing the issue of influence n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. OK, so she's a liberal activist. and has donated money. That's not in the same league as |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Liberal causes benefit the poor |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Let's see a link to all the causes she's given to. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I was speaking of the percentage of her overall wealth |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. And I'm speaking of the good Oprah has done and continues to do for poor Americans as well as |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Perhaps she does have more influence, too bad she didn't bother to use it in '04 n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Yeah. She wasn't impressed with Kerry, I guess. n/t |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Bush is the worst president in history, and Oprah did nothing to help remove him in '04 n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. So now you're saying she has enough power to change the outcome of an election? |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Obviously not, you're the one touting her awesome influence |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. She DOES have a lot of influence, obviously. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Getting rid of a dangerous madman should've motivated her, Kerry was irrelevant n/t |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Well, this is the primary season and she obviously feels strongly enough about Obama to campaign for |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Yes she feels strongly about OBAMA, her inaction in 'O4 lacked concern for the country |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Oh well. She hopes to make a difference NOW by getting the best person elected. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. To an older generation, Babs is far more reputable than Oprah |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Why? Is Streisand so much older than Oprah? |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Streisand has always been politically involved, where was Oprah in '04? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Oprah sees Obama as someone worthy to actively campaign for... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. Or maybe she just doesn't like Hillary? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. She DOES like Hillary and Bill. But she obviously doesn't think Hillary's the right person to be |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Can you carry on a coherent conversation? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Can YOU? YOU said, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. It's possible to like a person and still... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. So you're unaware that Streisand endorsed Hillary? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. And it was nowhere in this conversation either. eom |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. OMG! You said maybe Streisand doesn't like/ hasn't decided to support Hillary yet! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Laugh it up... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Of course it does...you said maybe Barbra hasn't decided yet or doesn't LIKE Hillary |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Congratulations... if that's so, it's the very first one in this thread ... eom |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Thanks. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
78. Babs has been popular since the early 60's |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Being "popular" and being able to bring people to political events/look at certain politicians are |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Do you read your own posts? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Yes I do. And popularitry does NOT necessarily translate into influence. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Could Oprah influence people if she weren't so popular? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You don't seem to get the distinction between JUST being popular and the ability to influence others |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. You don't seem to get anything |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. AGAIN: You don't seem to get the distinction between JUST being popular and the ability to |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Do you really not understand that if a person has an ability to influence people |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. as far as influence goes, I agree with you. Oprah has the ability |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Yes. It doesn't matter how talented an entertainer either one is... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Hmmm....but influencing people to vote a certain way is not |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. There have been celebrities who wanted to campaign for Obama. He turned them down... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
112. Oh Good God! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. You clearly don't have a good grasp of the difference between JUST popularity and the ability to |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Then her "job" description is as follows... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Here's a description of her: |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
107. Especially since Oprah has been very publically 'had' before... eom |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. You said above you didn't know if Oprah has the ability to bring "new voters" aboard |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. What "league" is Oprah in? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Streisand is an entertainer. Oprah is a philanthropist, humanitarian, influential |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Hate to tell you this but Streisand had a foundation |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Link? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Barbara is a big time Liberal, Oprah is not. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. They're not in the same league. You're right. Barbara IS a big time Liberal... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You keep saying they're not in the same league, they are. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Do you have a link showing what Streisand has done besides sing? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. She's done plenty. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I googled and posted a link showing Oprah's accomplishments and contributions. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Well she has done plenty. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Well, whatever then... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Not that it matters |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I'M not going to google it. I googled Oprah's link. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Why compare Streisand to Oprah? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Because the OP puts them both in the same category. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It would be interesting to see the effect |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It sure would. |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. That's true. Streisand outclasses Oprah in a big way. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. That's funny, but I disagree that Oprah is outclassed by Streisand and that |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Oprah let Bush kiss her in 2000. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Tyra? She's endorsing Obama, but she ain't in the same league as Oprah, either. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I want to know who Gwen Stefani is endorsing |
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Silence Dogood (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
123. Oprah isn't the brightest bulb in the socket |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. If she's not, how could she accomplish all this?: |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
113. Well said... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
77. To my grandparent, Streisand is a Goddess... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Good for your grandparent. That's not the point... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Yes, let's look at the books she recommends... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Oh, please... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. I don't give a damn about celebrity endorsements |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
38. I believe! Oprah will get people thinking about politics and voting. |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
40. I would guess it is because they are role models to some. |
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antiimperialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't even care who Wesley Clark, Ghandi or Jesus endorse. I can think on my own |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. This has nothing to do with weak minded people. It has to do with getting people out to listen to |
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D-Sooner (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
46. Good post |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-04-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. i agree very much. |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
90. Nope. I could care less... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Or you COULDN'T care less. |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
102. I'm voting for Hillary because Bill recommended her. n/t |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
108. because too many people are happy to let others do their thinking for them? |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
111. I just want to go to Oprah's rally cause she may giveaway 600 thread bedding under my chair. n/t |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Hah!!!! Good one, Nailz. |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
116. This is a favorite right-wing point; you know, "Shut up and sing"... |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
125. Because people worship celebrities. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
126. Because we live in the USY (United States of Yahoos) |
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