Campaign Memo From Rove To Obama: How To Beat Hillary

[ruggerson]

You really can't make this shit up.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dee0a6e8-a109-11dc-9f34-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

Not that you have asked for advice, but here it is anyway: Iowa is your chance to best her. If you do not do it there, odds are you never will anywhere. You are way behind her in most national polls. The only way to change that is to beat her in Iowa so people around America take another look at you. You did a smart thing organising effectively in the early primary states. But you can take advantage of that only if you win Iowa and keep her from building an overwhelming sense of invincibility and inevitability.

The good news is you have again got “the buzz”. Polls are looking better for you in Iowa and the other early states. Your press is improving, with your performance at the Iowa Jefferson-Jackson dinner a big help. Hillary Clinton has made unforced errors. But she is still the frontrunner and there are several things you need to do quickly to win.

First, stop acting like a vitamin-deficient Adlai Stevenson. Striking a pose of being high-minded and too pure will not work. Americans want to see you scrapping and fighting for the job, not in a mean or ugly way but in a forceful and straightforward way.

Hillary may come over as calculating and shifty but she looks in control. You, on the other hand, often come over as weak and ineffectual. In some debates, you do not even look at her when disagreeing with her, making it look as if you are afraid of her. She offers you openings time and again but you do not take advantage of them. Sharpen your attacks and make them more precise.

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[drbob99]

1. This is BS.

[MADem]

4. It is, but it isn't. This is Rove's actual article. nt

[drbob99]

7. Hard to believe. Has this been verified? What is Rove up to now?

[MADem]

22. Of course it's real. Rove is now employed by Time Magazine.

He was paid to write this piece.

[drbob99]

25. If he was paid to write it then what signficance is it?

[MADem]

30. Well, read the threads hereabouts and you'll get a clue.

Ask yourself--Cui Bono? Who benefits?

Let me put this very plainly, in a way that will INSULT people, though that is not the intent:

Rove wants Obama to be the candidate because he, Rove, thinks that America is a basically RACIST nation, and the American people will, in the privacy of the voting booth, pull the lever for WHITEY. That's where his mind is. He's carrying water for the GOP in giving this faux-sincere advice to Obama. He's wanting Obama to win the battle and lose the war.

Rove is inserting himself into the process. That's inappropriate. But it's typical.

And that's what he's thinking. He isn't even subtle.

[sufrommich]

35. Rove couldn't give a shit who we nominate.

They will all be poked with the same ugly stick no matter who we nominate. They're all good,and fair game, to him.Let's let this asshole slide into oblivion.He doesn't deserve the gravitas we give him.

[MADem]

40. I don't ascribe him any gravitas. He's no fucking oracle--he's a cheat. NT

[loyalsister]

61. You got it

Because it cuts all ways. Paying attention to would him mean the dems are racist any way you slice it and and he's got all of the articles written to that effect.
Not only that, "not nominating Hillary was sexist" Karl Rove 11\2008

[drbob99]

36. It's non-sense. Any intelligent politico from either side could write this.

[MADem]

39. But they're paying for the BY LINE. nt

[drbob99]

41. sure, it makes for a good read but that does not mean it has any political significance.

[MADem]

42. It is what it is. It is his effort to get paid AND influence the process. NT

[drbob99]

I think it's more to generate buzz and readership than affect the process... which it will not.

[MADem]

57. Maybe the buzz that Rove is out there, writing for Time, FT and others.

But this will have an impact on the process if the Talking Heads pick it up and run with it.

[Alamom]

2. Stunned........ Thanks for posting.

[MADem]

3. Holy shit--I thought this would be fake, or parody....and it isn't.

Memo to Obama: win Iowa or lose the race
By Karl Rove

Published: December 2 2007 22:00 | Last updated: December 2 2007 22:00



He's still carrying that BushCo water, and they're still afraid of Senator Clinton!

Ain't that....special!

[jonnyblitz]

5. gee, why would Rove want Obama to beat Hillary?

snicker.

[drbob99]

6. why would Rove make it public that he wants Obama to beat Hillary?

[sufrommich]

8. Blind hatred for all things Clinton.nt

[drbob99]

10. but if he makes it obvious he wants Obama to win doesn't that help Hillary?

[sufrommich]

13. Why? What Democrat is going to base

their vote on what Rove thinks?He thinks he's humiliating Clinton with this.The last gasp of an increasingly irrelevant asshole.

[drbob99]

31. There are those who claim the GOP is trying to steer the Dem nomination.

So anything like this would lend credence to the claim that the GOP wants to face Obama rather than Hillary which implies that Hillary is the stronger candidate. I don't believe it but some out there do and yes it can, unfortunately, affect the way a person votes.

[sufrommich]

38. He's attempting to fuck with the process,he doesn't care

if it's Clinton or Obama.He'll gladly attack whoever gets the nom. We shouldn't play along.

[ClarkUSA]

28. Yes, it's Rovian reverse psychology that's already working on some on our less intelligent DUers.

Just look at the blithering by some on this thread.

[sufrommich]

44. You have no right attacking anyone "blithering"

on any thread. You praised Robert Novak to high heaven when he floated a nasty rumor about Clinton.You still site it as if it were fact.You need to look in the mirror.

[Skidmore]

9. He doesn't. He just can't bear not being relevant anymore.

The worst thing the Democratic Party or any of its candidates can do is pay attention to him, particularly during the primary process. WE will choose our candidate, not Rove or the neocons.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Props to Skid

:thumbsup:

And now, back to our regularly scheduled "Obama is using Rovian tactics" program.

[emilyg]

11. Good question. It's hate.

[MADem]

14. Could it be "The Harold Ford Factor?"

I can't believe the advice he gives the guy, either. He's basically telling him to be as fake as a used car salesman, to be calculating when he picks on his opponents, and that "change" -- i.e. changing the fucking crappy TONE-- is just a useful buzzword. "Create controversies?" That's just So Bush-like!!

Amazing. Simply amazing.


First, stop acting like a vitamin-deficient Adlai Stevenson.....Second, focus on the fact that many Democrats have real doubts about Hillary.....Third, when you create controversies do not pick issues where you are playing the weaker hand.....
Fourth, when you disagree with her be clear about what you believe. ...Fifth, you need to do a better job explaining what kind of change you represent.....Sixth, find a way to gently belittle her whenever she tries to use disagreements among Democrats as an excuse to complain about being picked on.....

The writer is former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush and advised on his 2000 and 2004 presidential election campaigns.

Edit/can't spell

[drbob99]

15. Anyone know how this letter got into the hands of the FT?

[MADem]

19. Duh, this isn't a LETTER. It's a CONTRACTED article, that he was PAID to write.

It's a fantasy piece, by Karl, IF he were advising Obama.

[drbob99]

24. Well that puts a different light on it.

I thought the poster was claiming it was an actual letter to Obama from Rove. I suspect Rove could write a strategy piece on any candidate.

[MADem]

32. No, that's the actual TITE of the piece... NT

[bunnies]

16. wow. This strikes me as so bizarre...

I dont even know what to make of it.

[rosesaylavee]

17. This is no doubt related to the Novak article

that stirred up shit last week. Frustrate Rove and his minions by ignoring this. It's drivel that's intended to cut both Obama and Clinton.

I am outside both camps - I think that is the plan. (Too bad for the repugs our bench is pretty deep this season.) Anyway, don't play his game.

[sufrommich]

18. I agree.nt

[BeyondGeography]

20. Rove is the man...What does David Axelrod know about campaigning anyway?

:sarcasm:

[wyldwolf]

21. Is anyone surprised the two forces that hate the Clintons would join forces?

[PresidentObama]

23. Join forces? Excuse me....

[bunnies]

26. After reading the entire article - this feels to me...

like a hit piece on both of them. Man.. that Rove is a wily mf. Unreal.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. This Is Something Chris Matthews Would Write

DSB

[ClarkUSA]

29. Chris Matthews actually coached Hillary after her illegal DL flip flop crewup in Philly

He advised her to use Harry Truman's "heat in the kitchen" metaphor and BANG, the next day -- she was repeating it like a parrot.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. I'm Jealous Karl Rove Doesn't Write Me Love Letters

DSB

[ClarkUSA]

43. Rove endorsed Hillary for nominee along with Bush II, Newt Gingrich, and Tom DeLay

What more does Hillaryworld want? Rumsfeld?

[sufrommich]

46. When did Rove "endorse" Clinton?

You're right up there with Rove when it comes to flinging baseless shit.

[ClarkUSA]

49. In his first love letter as column writer.

Go read it. I have.

[sufrommich]

51. Let's see it then. You would think Rove endorsing

Hillary Clinton would be front page news.Unless it's pure bullshit,of course.

[ClarkUSA]

53. Look back in GDP archives for the dozen threads discussing Rove and Bush II's "endorsements"

Or, go look through Rove's first article as a paid columnist yourself. where I'm not going to waste my time for someone who's only interest is insulting me.

[sufrommich]

55. Now it's Rove and Bush who have

endorsed her??? Stop the presses! Call CNN!!! Surely such an endorsement is newsworthy. Why not just admit you have no problem with repeating and creating shameless lies?

[rinsd]

63. Here's another insult. You make the claim, you back it up.

If you can't do that, then be prepared to have your claim ignored.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Hate Away

I'm not going to waste a perfectly good evening in a hate match with you...It must suck to have all that hate...I hope you find a therapist and work through your issues...I hope you do...

Have a night...

[ClarkUSA]

56. Yeah, yeah, anyone who says anything against the Clintons are all "Hillary Haters"

Next Mark Penn talking point?

[ilovesunshine]

50. In this thinking, then he just endorsed Obama with this column.

[ClarkUSA]

52. Where did he do that? By calling Obama "weak and ineffectual"?

In his first column, he gushed over Hillary and how "formaidable" an opponent she'd be for Republicans to beat.

[sufrommich]

54. Calling her formidable is not "gushing".Where is that

endorsement you said he made?

[ruggerson]

58. Strange world you inhabit

n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

48. Obama is pretty cute. Remember how Karl gushed over W.?

http://www.grandtheftelectionohio.com/index.htm

[cali]

37. lol

how's it feel to hate that much? You know it's bad for your health don't you?

[ClarkUSA]

45. rofl

I wouldn't know... you tell me.

[CalebHayes]

33. agreed

[Cameron27]

59. Bizarre.

[Gman]

60. Some excellent advice from Rove

I don't think it's anything that Obama hasn't been told before as Rove's "advice" is all pretty basic stuff. And Rove is correct that if Obama can manage to win Iowa it will be a bonified race. IF not, it's going to be all formality toward nominating Hillary.

There's nothing secret or mystical about Rove's advice here. Somehow I think Obama has heard all this before. Obama would do well to follow this advice before it's too late.

And what's Rove's motivation? He's being paid.

[William769]

62. K&R!

Since I K&R'd this I wonder if I will get a warning?