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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:27 AM
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Des Moines Register: Obama dominates among women as most likeable, principled candidate.
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 03:37 AM by calteacherguy
Des Moines Register
December 1, 2007

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"I just think that Obama is more of a positive candidate overall," she said. "Aside from the Clinton-Obama interaction lately, it's nice to hear a candidate with a positive outlook. I think our country needs that right now."

Browne, who supported Clinton early partly out of gender loyalty, represents a shift among some women caucusgoers from Clinton to Obama.

In the new poll, Obama leads with support from 31 percent of women likely attend the caucuses, compared to 26 percent for Clinton. In October, Clinton was the preferred candidate of 34 percent of women caucusgoers, compared to 21 percent for Obama.

Obama also dominates among younger caucusgoers, with support from 48 percent from those younger than 35. Clinton was the choice of 19 percent in that group and Edwards of 17 percent.

Obama has an advantage among first-time caucusgoers. He also leads among people who say they definitely will attend the caucuses.

Clinton was seen as the most ego-driven and negative.

Obama led on traits such as most likeable, principled and best able bring together Republicans and Democrats.

Thirty percent of Democratic caucusgoers viewed Sen. Clinton as either mostly or very unfavorably, behind U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel. She topped the list of candidates whose nomination would be one of the biggest disappointments at 27 percent.

Other troubling news for Clinton included a sharp decline in support from members of union households, where she was the preferred candidate with support from 34 percent in the October poll. In the new poll, Clinton is third among union households with 21 percent.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071201/NEWS09/71201009/0/iowapoll07
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 03:33 AM
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1. this is not good for Hillary
trend in next 2 weeks might show if it's a temporary set back or she is losing support.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:02 AM
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2. Hillary supporters bemoan "hillary haters" and actually wonder why they are not viewed as positive!
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 09:03 AM by earthlover
Obama is viewed as having a more positive outlook.

This poll is good news for Obama on several fronts.

Right now, everything seems to be playing Obama's way.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:20 AM
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3. WHich is ironic...
Given the dishonesty of his campaign...
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:26 AM
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5. What, no new polls showing Hillary winning by 30 points?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:27 AM
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6. Yeah I don't make up news...nt
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:25 PM
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10. Posts like this sadden me.
Same old, same old...

It seems many Clinton supporters are reflective of the candidate they support.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 05:52 PM
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14. Listen Mr. windsock...
You change your tune so often to take anything you say seriously is very difficult
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:19 PM
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12. Dishonest? How, dear Elmer?
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 01:22 PM
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13. Dishonesty? Like planted questions at town hall meetings? n/t
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 05:54 PM
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15. Like false statement on his and Hillary's health care plans...
Like false statements on Kyl Lieberman and his opposition...like false statements on his positions on Social Security...

I could go on, but he has not been shy about distorting and mischaracterizing the records of his opponents...and obscuring his position when it suits his audience...

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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:09 PM
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18. You're talking about spin
They all do that, your candidate included. Obama has not said anything that can't be supported, either by solid facts or logic.

Your charge of dishonesty is as disingenuous as Hillary's claims the she trusted Bush to do the right thing prior to invading Iraq. If she was telling the truth when she said that, her judgment should be questioned far more than it already has been.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:06 PM
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19. Sure he has...
And in fact in a quiet bit of retrenchment took sopme of his claims off his website...

In any case I thought he was a straight shooter...not a triangulating politician?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:25 AM
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4. Iowans generally appreciate authenticity.
Speaks for itself.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:53 AM
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7. :) Keep em coming!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:59 AM
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8. That's not surprising at all.
:)
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:19 AM
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9. Now that people are paying attention
I don't think name recognition can sustain her any longer. But what troubles me is that people like Obama because they see him as "able to bring democrats and republicans together". How many times has that been tried? And it never works. Republicans consider working together to be the democrats capitulating to them, and the democrats usually do it in an attempt to say "See? We're trying to work together!"

Well screw that. The time for trying to work with these evil bastards is over. We must crush them. Discredit them to the point that the party is no longer viable. There's never going to be a better opportunity, and they've proven themselves completely irredeemable time and time again.

Once we're rid of republicans we can split the democratic party into the liberal democrats and the conservative democrats (who are pretty much Goldwater conservatives at this point), and then maybe we can get shit done.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 12:57 PM
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11. I may not be an american
but i somewhat disagree there.

Beating them into the dust isn't going to do much of anything aside from deepening the split between the more sensible Dem and Rep people(average joe, not politicians)

The sensible thing in my eyes would be to work with the more moderate and sensible rep politicians(basically wresting the power away from the neocon crazies to the more moderates voices)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:03 PM
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16. So Obama is first among women, youth, definite caucus goers, AND first-time caucus goers.
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 06:08 PM by ClarkUSA
Guess playing those gender/victim/experience cards for the past month didn't turn out so well for Hillaryworld, after all, eh? :banghead:

Oh, and Obama is seen as the HONEST and LIKEABLE candidate by a wide margin over Her Royal Hillary. Gotta love it... Obama's message
and persona is shining through Clinton's smoke and mirrors approach to politics as usual. Iowans want change and they are not afraid to
go for it.
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drbob99 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 06:06 PM
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17. Amazing he is now picking up women voters.
Hillary must be getting very very nervous... and Oprah has not even arrived yet!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:25 PM
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20. Clinton is still riding high in national polls, but this won't be as smooth as expected
A win for Obama in Iowa could be problematic for Hillary. Nice to see Edwards numbers' among young people right there with Hillary's. I hope for a strong showing for both him and Obama.

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