I love kucinich but I'm not sure about this (re: ron paul)

[fenriswolf]

From dennis's mouth

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/11/if_kucinich_wins_nomination_ro.html

[magellan]

1. Well, now I'm gobsmacked

I couldn't imagine Paul would accept such an offer, but if he and Kucinich are friends and DK's now talking about it....

Well, at least as VP Paul couldn't do too much damage. But oh my....

[fenriswolf]

2. dunno maybe it would be good synergy

ron paul to keep kucinich focused on issues at hand and kucinich to reign in his corporate ass.

[Didereaux]

3. No doubt at all...Kucinich has been tokin' with Shirley again! n/t

[fenriswolf]

4. never mind found this burried in the article

"However, Ron wants to substantially cut the size and scope of the federal government. There are too many differences on issues such as taxes and spending to think a joint ticket would be possible."

HeHe they are friends but it would never happen because kucinich doesn't like ron's politics.
very nice.

[magellan]

20. Well, that undoubtedly goes both ways

I just can't think that either of them would willingly accept being VP to the other. Their politics are that different.

Thanks for spotting that bit in the article, I missed it!

[rAVES]

5. God forbid a bit of unity... Ron Paul IS the second best candidate.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. You mean, apart from the fact that

he's a racist, anti-choice, anti-government, anti-tax Randian objectivist Libertarian nutjob?

[inthebrain]

10. Sounds like Joe Biden and Ron Paul...

[rAVES]

12. Run with that if it makes you happy :)

[slick8790]

11. Pass me some of whatever you're smoking, because it must be good n/t.

[Basileus Basileon]

23. I agree with you. Medicare is for old people, and old people suck and deserve to die.

Same with Social Security. We can cancel that, too. Also, Medicaid. Poor people don't need health care. They're poor, and poor people can fend for themselves. Speaking of which, welfare? Not the government's job.

Also, the Department of Education. Kids can educate themselves at the local church. Also, FEMA. States should be able to handle disasters well on their own; I think Katrina proved that we don't even need FEMA. Also, the EPA can be demolished. We don't need pollution controls. The market will regulate itself. We can get rid of OSHA, too, because we can trust the market to provide fair working conditions without regulation, just like Wal-Mart does. We don't need a minimum wage, that's for communists. Roe v Wade? Pssh. Women shouldn't get pregnant, the sluts. Sorry if they get raped, but them's the breaks.

Also, we don't need an FBI. Crimes will solve themselves. Federal reserve? That sounds complicated. I bet we don't need one of those. Department of Energy? What do they even do? Who cares? Axe 'em. IRS? Hahaha, we won't be paying income taxes any more. Sorry, poor people, but all the money has to come from sales taxes now. Not that it matters, you won't have any money anyway.

Also, we should teach creationism in schools. Not just ID, but creationism.

Also, I agree with Dr. Paul that 95% of all African-American males in DC are criminal or semi-criminal, and as such it is perfectly rational to fear black people.

[pinkpops]

6. To put the best face on Ron Paul's negatives:

That is, while he has a strong anti-Iraq war stance and constitutional freedoms, what about his positions on tax, Social Security, government, guns, abortion, etc?

On abortion, he is with the social conservatives. On guns, just an extension of his stance on freedom. On economics, I believe he says we have never had Capitalism in this country - the form we have favors big business, defense contractors, and other insiders over the individual.

[Steepler0t]

7. Human sacrifice, cats and dogs living together:

— mass hysteria!

[Stop Cornyn]

9. I also love Dennis. I think he's feeling the stress of the campaign trail.

[slick8790]

13. Kucinich has take shark-jumping to a new low.

[polichick]

14. I don't know if it's a new low...

But, unless they run as Indies, I would say he's jumped the shark.

[slick8790]

15. I think running as Indies would be worse.

Right now it's just Kucinich making an ass out of himself by considering a racist, bigoted, anti-choice corporatist as his running mate, without any chance of getting the nomination. If he runs as an independent he'd be a true traitor to the democratic party.

[polichick]

16. But, in terms of votes, it might work better...

YouTubers love the two of 'em!

[Recursion]

18. Corporatist? Are you joking?

Where on earth do you get the idea that Paul is a corporatist? Except for Kucinich he's probably the most outspoken critic of corporate power in the House.

[Kucinich4America]

22. Paul isn't a corporatist candidate, but corporatists would win if he were president.

The Libertarian fantasy requires that you deregulate everything. It's a fantasy because it puts all faith into a "free market" that no longer exists in this country, because its impossible to compete against huge multinational corporations. So in Paul's quest to abolish "big government" he would be enabling more ENRONs, more mergers, and more poisoned food.

So, as I said, put Ron Paul in a place where he can actually help this country, and let him be involved with ending disastrous foreign policy, and "free" trade nightmares.

[Basileus Basileon]

24. And yet he stands for deregulation and the destruction of the federal government's

ability to rein in corporate power.

[Recursion]

17. Well, if they keep to what those two agree on...

If they would stick to their points of agreement:

1. End the war
2. Stop using military force as an instrument of policy
3. End the collusion of corporate power and government
4. Undo the disastrous corporate-managed trade agreements we've been stuck with
5. End the PATRIOT act and other government invasions of civil liberties
6. End corporate invasions of civil liberties

I do think there's a left/right coalition there. Business will be pissed off, though...

[flvegan]

19. Worked for Abe Lincoln.

Folks forget history easily.

[Kucinich4America]

21. How about we make Ron Paul VP, but only put him in charge of foreign policy?

Paul wants out of Iraq and out of NAFTA. I agree with him on those things, so put him where he can work on those, and keep him away from domestic policy.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

[Basileus Basileon]

25. Paul is a free-trader, you realize.

He opposes NAFTA, but at the same time is rated 76% by CATO, and is pushing to end economic protectionism.

[Kucinich4America]

26. Damn... I guess that means we'll have to go with Pat Buchanan instead....

I think he's still a "protectionist".

[Basileus Basileon]

27. Your avatar shows a man who is a protectionist *and* a liberal.