Is Edwards the Howard Dean of 2004?

[question everything]

Howard Dean in 2004 appeared as "angry" and, supposedly, was the favorite of what others like to call the "angry left." (Sure we are angry, we have plenty of reasons).

But Dean lost in Iowa.

So I wonder whether the caucus goers of Iowa - who, like sensible people that they are are missing from DU tonight - will turn away from Edwards who is getting angry and will choose Obama, instead, or even surprise us and will give Biden a chance.

(No, I don't think that Clinton will win Iowa which should not deter her. Bill did not win it, nor did he win NH, either. Dukakis lost Iowa too)

[Selatius]

1. The top three candidates all come across as angry and sniping at each other.

The Dean Scream thing didn't happen until after the Iowa vote.

[neutron]

12. Edwards and Obama are lightweights

No Dean in either.

Edwards voting record as a senator was a real eye opener.
Obama didn't vote when the Senate condemned MoveOn.

[Debi]

2. First of all, Bill didn't run in Iowa so it's unfair to say that he didn't win it

Watching Edwards campaign and watching Obama's campaign unfortuately I see Obama being more like Dean than Edwards.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. Dean was angry? NOT.

RW media portrayed him that way, often using photoshop.

He was popular for a reason; no one was looking for an "angry" candidate.

[Kolesar]

7. Yes, really.

The original poster was really stabbing in the dark for a thesis.

[JI7]

4. Harkin ran in 1992 so Iowa was not in play that year , and while Bill didn't WIN NH

he did do a lot better than he was expected to do which got him a lot of positive attention and helped in later states.

[polichick]

5. imo Dean was brought down by the same folks who are deciding...

...things for us this time 'round. I can't help thinking that Iowa is a charming diversion which allows us to feel that regular Americans actually have a say in things.

[zalinda]

6. Edwards is like Dean in a surprising way

He, like Dean think that no state is beyond reach. According to Elizabeth Edwards, the Kerry campaign didn't run ads in various red states, and only one in N Carolina. The Edwards campaign thinks that dems shouldn't overlook these states, and that we could turn them more blue than red, as these red states have dem governors.

zalinda

[OHdem10]

8. Dean is not and was not angry. Nor is Edwards. Passionate, YES

The Establishment did not accept Dean nor are they accepting
Edwards.

I think Hilary has as good chance as any to win Iowa--Do not
underestimate the powers of the Establishment.

[Donnachaidh]

9. you need to do some SERIOUS research

DUMB premise and even dumber attempt to equate Edwards with the dumb premise. :rofl:

[question everything]

10. I heard Howard Dean in the summer of 2003

and he scared me with his intensity and anger. I was relieved when Kerry and Edwards - whom I supported - won Iowa.

I started supporting Edwards again this year, but his anger scares me.

Yes, I realize that I am in the minority on DU. but I think that most voters are not comfortable with intense candidates.

We like them to be personable, which Bill Clinton was and, I suppose, frat boy Bush, at least in 2000, came across as more personable than intense Gore.

Voters want to feel some kind of emotional connection with their candidates and both Gore and Kerry appeared aloof.

If Edwards wins the nomination, and if, during the general elections campaign he will move back to the center, he may just win.

I will vote for the nominee, whoever s/he is, which is more than I can say for too many DUers who will "stay home" as many liberals did in 1968, or vote for a third party candidate like Ron Paul -gag! - and will give the Republicans the White House, again. But, hey, they will be pure while the Supreme Court become a solid Right Winger - for generations.

I am not replying to you directly. You don't deserve it with your post that does not have a single intelligent phrase. But for others who may wonder about the question.

[neutron]

11. NO WAY!

Howard Dean had a huge following, and the press did him in.
Edwards is a fraud.
His voting record as a senator was corporate and almost neoccon.
This character voted for bankruptcy reform.

And OBama didn't even support MoveOn.

Clinton did, and gets no credit for it. Unbelievable.

[venable]

13. you scare way too easily nt