Hillary: It Takes a Clinton to Clean Up After a Bush

[ccpup]

Source: TPM and AP

... The former first lady compared the situation to 1992, when her husband ran against the first President Bush.

"There seems to be a pattern here. It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush," she said to applause.

Without mentioning names, she suggested Democratic rival Barack Obama — less than three years into his first term in the Senate — and other candidates lack the experience necessary to address the nation's myriad fiscal challenges.

"There is one job we can't afford on-the-job training for — our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history," Clinton said. "Every day spent learning the ropes is another day of rising costs, mounting deficits and growing anxiety for our families. And they cannot afford to keep waiting." ...

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/11/clinton_says_economy_needs_hel.php

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Like it or not, I think that's a fantastic slogan and one which may prompt people to remember the "good ol' days" of Bill before Junior was installed.

[Critters2]

1. And then another Bush, and then another Clinton....

someone should explain to these people that we DON'T have royalty in this country.

[pinto]

18. Yeah. We have elections.

[sufrommich]

25. And if the next president is a Clinton...

she will have been elected,not crowned.

[mod mom]

49. Too bad their not fair and not verifiable.

[Reno.Muse]

21. and then a Jeb Bush to clean up after her. Get over the bumper sticker crap

That's all her campaign has. Slogans. I'm your girl blah, blah, blah.

[asdjrocky]

33. Yo Reno!

Good answer!

Did you go to the town hall?

[LittleClarkie]

43. Ahem

[aquart]

2. She's eating their meme with salt and pepper!

[allisonthegreat]

22. lol, n/t

[blm]

3. It takes a Clinton to PROTECT the Bushes. BushInc became STRONGER in the 90s

when they should have been taken down permanently due to the all the outstanding matters in IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning operations.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

The whole reason we have a Bush2 is because of Bill Clinton protecting Poppy throughout the 90s.

[liberalnurse]

12. Way off base with that concept.

That link is in the "Outer Limits"......Delusional thinking and paranoid rhetoric, in my opinion.

[blm]

15. Then how was Bush2 possible after the Dec 1992 BCCI report?

The report that Bush expected to get impeached after if he won in 1992.

And what happened after that report came out? What happened to Jackson Stephens and Marc Rich and AQ Khan and Poppy?

Care to explain how Clinton handled that report?

And I trust Robert Parry's analysis because he is a trusted INVESTIGATIVE reporter who actually broke many of the IranContra stories. Any Democrat who wants to claim Parry is delusional in his observations is a fool.

[NC_Nurse]

4. Poppy didn't leave HALF the mess that his POS son has.

[rodeodance]

7. BINGO

[blm]

11. She's right, though. Bushes COUNT on the Clintons to clean up and cover up

for them. Bill proved it throughout the 90s and Hillary is set up to do the same for Bush2.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Bush2 should NEVER have happened - or 9/11 - or this Iraq war. But for the ability of BushInc to grow stronger throughout the 90s thanks to the generosity of Bill Clinton and his deep-sixing of all the outstanding matters of Poppy Bush's numerous crimes of office.

[tularetom]

5. WTF experience does she have that makes her so qualified?

I'm not sayin she cant' do the job but I gotta scratch my head when I hear her bleating about her "35 years of experience". She's been a senator for 6plus years. Beyond that she has NO experience. You could even argue that Obama's state legislative experience makes him more experienced than Hillary. actually neither one (nor Edwards either for that matter) has even one day of executive branch experience at any level.

She was the friggin first lady whoop de do, she was never elected to any office outside the senate. I wish she'd just STFU about all this experience.

[ccpup]

8. here you go:

a little from her years in Arkansas:

Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977. In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom she had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981. For much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so. During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years. Bill appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

Hillary Clinton chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992, where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

And a bit of stuff from the White House years:

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.

The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

[liberalnurse]

13. YES!

Have the less informed enjoy the facts. Thank You for the immediate post!

[rodeodance]

6. i like it. It will work for some people and not others

[ccpup]

10. yeah

I agree. Some will respond with a "yeah, it WAS much better when a Clinton came in and fixed the mess his Dad made" while others will go "huh? that's not why I'm voting"

It just all depends on perspective, I guess.

[yourout]

9. Who's gonna clean up after Clinton?

Won't be any manufacturing jobs left if she follows her hubbys lead.

[boobooday]

14. In a country of 300 million

Seems like we could get someone who is NOT a Clinton, and NOT a Bush, and who maybe even went to a public university.

That's what I'd like to see.

[oasis]

41. You're fed up with Clinton/Bush, while others are fed up with male presidents period.

Still others are fed up with white males.

And so on ad infinitum.:boring:

[UrbScotty]

16. Uh, nice try, Hillary.

[Nostradammit]

17. $$$I'm certain that they're poised to clean up$$$

[pinto]

19. Yeah, the Bush quip is a good line.

[madrchsod]

20. just what -did-she do during the clinton years?

she claims she learned so much so where`s the proof? where`s the paper trial to the all meetings she attended?
"There is one job we can't afford on-the-job training" so i guess it may be true that she and bill did have a 20 year plan....or maybe it`s just all bullshit.

is`t politics fun!:rofl:

[NoodleyAppendage]

23. Yes. That's right. Use a slogan that reinforces the decades of nepotism. Dumbass move.

People are sick of political dynasties, so any slogan that reinforces and reminds them of this problem is wrongheaded. Keep shooting yourself in the foot, Hillary. Please keep screwing up so we can actually have a Dem that will win with a healthy margin in 2008.

J

[riqster]

24. Quote:

"There is one job we can't afford on-the-job training for — our next president. That could be the costliest job training in history," Clinton said. "Every day spent learning the ropes is another day of rising costs, mounting deficits and growing anxiety for our families. And they cannot afford to keep waiting."

Yes, Hill, we saw that with Bill, if you'll bother to remember. AND with Reagan. AND with Dubya. AND with Carter.

I do not disagree with the point, but in this field, there's a lot of DC experience. You are in the middle of the pack WRT to that metric.

[jackbourassa]

26. Here's Hillary hiding behind her husband again!

Two-family perpetual rule!

Jeb in 2016

Chelsea in 2024

George P. in 2032

Socks The Cat in 2040

Let no one ever become President again!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zulchzulu]

27. Thanks for reminding everyone about how political dynasties suck, Hillary!

Let's bring back cassettes too!

:crazy:

[BeyondGeography]

28. Now there's a line that needs to be retired right away

All it does is remind people that two families will be trading the presidency back-and-forth if she's elected.

Someone please show her the WaPo-ABC numbers in Iowa on change (55%) vs. experience (33%).

Dumb.

[zulchzulu]

31. Shhh!

It's a great line that Hillary Clinton should keep using ALL THE TIME!

:evilgrin:

[BeyondGeography]

34. OK...Let her talk up how Chelsea will clean up after Jeb while she's at it

:crazy:

[CyberPieHole]

29. She'd make a fine president.

Bill Clinton is beloved world-wide. The two of them in the White House would help restore the U.S. and lead it into greater glories.

[AtheistInBabylon]

30. On-the-job training...?

And her on-the-job training on fiscal policy is, what... being first lady and observing her (admittedly successful, in that area) husband? Or what, she thinks she already knows everything she needs to know upon assuming office? Any job, whether miner, CEO or President, requires on-the-job learning. Otherwise we end up with ideologues like G.W.Bush, condemned to repeat the same mistakes in a Hades of eternity.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

45. Yes, she was President, pretty much, from 1992 to 2000...

in her mind!

[killbotfactory]

32. The slogan reeks of nepotism

But that shouldn't phase anyone supporting Clinton.

[Mother Of Four]

35. I'm not a supporter....

But this has got to be the worst campaign slogan ever, all it's going to do is remind people that they are voting Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton when most Dems want serious change.

I'm sorry, but if she wants to win she needs to run on her own credentials, not the fact that her husband was president.

Again, I don't support her... but this is silly. I really hope she changes the way it's said for her sake.

[calteacherguy]

36. That's a horrible line for her to take.

It's going to fall flat. Voters aren't going to accept we need Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton.

Whoever advised her to say that she should fire. It's going to remind voters of one of her negatives...she reprensents the old guard.

Moreover, what gives her all the ecomonics expertise? Her work on the board of directors of Walmart? Her line that she is more equipped to deal with economic issues lacks credibility.

[HuffleClaw]

37. 'other candidates lack the experience'

and she DOES???


WHEN are people going to realize that being wed to the president is NOT the same as BEING the president. good lord.

[calteacherguy]

38. I think she may be referring to all the economic expertise she gained

while being on the board of directors of Walmart.

[ccpup]

47. check out

Posts #4 and #8. Gives you some idea of the experience she's alluding to, I believe.

[Phunktified]

39. I agree!

In fact I wrote about it earlier on my blog:
http://primaryblue.blogspot.com/2007/11/on-dynastic-politics.html

[Tresalisa]

40. I'm hoping that it's Dennis Kucinich who is elected and cleans up the mess

which * has left us!

[harun]

51. I hope DK says "After a B*sh even a Clinton looks good" (n/t)

[DrFunkenstein]

42. I Truly Hope She Continues to Use This Line

There definitely seems to be a pattern here and I hope she goes right on reminding people of that fact.

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[mitchum]

46. I think she meant to say "it takes a Clinton to COVER UP after a Bush"

[hootinholler]

48. Well then wouldn't that make closing BCCI a campaign issue?

Also: "Every day spent learning the ropes is another day of rising costs, mounting deficits and growing anxiety for our families. And they cannot afford to keep waiting." WOW, Um, aren't you a Senator that supported this shit?

Fuck me harder baby!

-Hoot

[SIMPLYB1980]

50. Clinton hate squad powers unite!