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PollM Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:35 PM
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Clinton vs. Obama on Health Care
What health plan do you believe would maintain quality of health care?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1029

MIT economics professor Jonathan Gruber, one of Clinton's health care advisers, describes her plan as a "universal coverage" plan, in contrast to the Obama plan, which he terms a "universal access" plan.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:39 PM
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1. mandates are not universal coverage
Forcing people to choose between insurance premiums and food is not universal coverage. The upper 10% will never understand it.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:40 PM
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2. They both suck and I hope neither ever get implemented.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 04:40 PM by Milo_Bloom
Both ultimately mask the real problem and take it off the table by creating the illusion of a solution.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:41 PM
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3. TAKE THE PROFIT OUT. Period.

That is what needs to be done for the system to serve EVERYONE.

Health insurance mandates is not universal health care. It is a private insurers' wet dream.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:21 PM
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4. Neither. HR 676 will do the job. n/t
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:39 PM
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5. HR 676 is dead.
It was referred to 3 different committees on January 24th then subcommittees on the 30th and February 2nd and has sat with no action since. There's no scheduled activity on the bill for the rest of the year.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:20 PM
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7. Then Kucinich will reintroduce it. n/t
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:53 PM
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8. I certainly hope so! nt.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:57 PM
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6. Right, universal "MANDATED" coverage
Big difference. She is NOT espousing universal coverage. Only Kucinich is doing that.
And no, Universal coverage will not be heard in the near future, but it will be heard and it will come to pass.
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PollM Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:22 PM
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9. Clinton vs. Obama on Health Care
Make Insurance companies do what they are suppose to.
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