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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:15 PM
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"Having lived by the polls, Hillary Clinton is now panicked by them..."
:patriot:

"Having lived by the polls, Hillary Clinton is now panicked by them," (Obama) campaign spokesman Bill Burton told Election Central. "It was just nine days ago that Hillary Clinton told 9,000 Iowa Democrats that she wasn't going to attack other Democrats. Obviously that has changed as it has become clear we'll be holding a caucus, not a coronation, in Iowa.

"Barack Obama has been fighting for working families since he helped neighborhoods devastated by steel plant closings as a community organizer over two decades ago, and he'll be a President who delivers change working Americans can believe in by taking on the special interests and bringing this country together. America needs a president who will be candid about the challenges we face and honest about how we should address them."

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/hillary_and_obama_trade_blows_over_social_security.php#more
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:16 PM
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1. Says Obama's spokesman...as he whistles by the graveyard...
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:19 PM
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3. ...says DU's resident Hillary apologist, reality denier...
:rofl: for sure.

:bounce:
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:20 PM
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4. As rebuked by DU's Resident Obama shill, reality denier...
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 03:20 PM by SaveElmer
:rofl: for sure....


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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:21 PM
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6. for god's sake, what is it with the "so are you" posts?
It's either desperation or immaturity , but it's become common among the Hillary camp.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM
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7. Well when you are dealing with children...
Sometimes you have to speak to them at their level...

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:47 PM
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14. So which one are you?
The child or the person speaking to them on "their level?" It's all so confusing.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:42 PM
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27. .
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 07:44 PM by burythehatchet
:rofl:

on edit

:spray: :rofl:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:32 PM
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10. Obama is very scared.
You see, he has not formed the loyalty bonds which truly command the PARTY selection of who really gets the nomination. Senator Clinton has done this throughout the country. OBama is just going to bank the campaign money .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:09 PM
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25. Except more are realizing that TeamClinton undermined both 2000 and 2004
and have also been trying to push Dean out as head of the DNC.

The Vanity Fair article last month on top of the pushing at Dean this past year is beginning to give a picture to those increasing their attention to the political landscape in the party.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:11 PM
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29. Bullshit.
Senator Clinton has done this throughout the country.

I'm in her home state's second largest city, and I haven't seen hide nor hair of her visiting at all, much less her having been here to form any "loyalty bonds" in this city. If she hasn't done that here in her home state (where it's supposedly easiest), why should I assume it's that way anywhere else?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:17 PM
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2. The recent Iowa poll is reason enough for Hil not to be ga-ga over them
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:20 PM
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5. Clintons people are really sailing down that river in Egypt
They know what their numbers are in Iowa, and her deterioration there is cause for concern. She peaked too early. It's anyones game there right now. Even Biden is gaining on her.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM
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8. Joe's A Good Guy But He's Running A Distant Fourth In (Several) Polls
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 03:23 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/iowa-primary.html

I know you're a good fella and wouldn't want to mislead anybody...


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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:26 PM
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9. Obama-bama bobama, banana-fama fo-fama.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:38 PM
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11. Why panic?
In the past month, there has been little more than negligible changes in the polls. And Hill still has extremely solid leads in most states.

I think panic mode is just starting to set in for the Obama camp.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:45 PM
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28. astute analysis
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asha Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:42 PM
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12. Iowa does not a united states make.
Hillary does not need Iowa to win the nomination,Edwards does or Obama.Media will make a BIG deal about it. What Hillary is doing is shuting them out. Considering she got there after them and still leading both speaks volumes."NO NO wait" Obama is totally preachy,and "late on healthcare " Edwards is just a lawyer. May be he should go to Pakistan and get arrested before Obambi nukes it.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:43 PM
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13. But when Obama screams at elderly Iowans he's being "cool as a cucumber".
"must not panic":hide::
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:55 PM
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17. That's just not true
He did not scream, he did not yell.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:44 PM
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24. Okay then, he "shouted" in anger.
How's that?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:42 PM
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26. Still no good
He asserted himself, he was right to do so, and he did not shout in anger.





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Video here for those who have not seen it.

http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/19/obama-takes-the-tough-questions/

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:50 PM
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15. Where had it been established Clinton ever lived by the polls or is now panicked by them?
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 03:52 PM by wyldwolf
:shrug:

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:55 PM
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16. Were you perhaps in a coma during the Clinton administration?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:01 PM
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20. Go ahead and provide evidence if you have it. That will help your case
more than just insulting people.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:44 PM
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22. were you perhaps in a coma when you read the OP?
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:00 PM
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19. Clinton supporters certainly live by the polls
We rarely hear anything substantive about Clinton's policy positions (excuse me but Kyl-Lieberman?) but instead must put up with threads that generally trumpet her lead in some poll (thus implying her legitimacy ex post facto without the burden of broaching her questionable and flexible views) or that angrily blast so-called "Hillary haters" who dare to question her coronation.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:44 PM
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23. and that is relevant how to the OP and my question (as false as it is)
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:01 PM
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21. Another good question that won't be answered. n/t
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:00 PM
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18. I was an Obama supporter but I think he's the one going negative.
The way he pounced on HRC for what NOVAK did was completely unfair. He should have demanded that Novak retract his second-hand story, rather than demand that HRC "admit" that there was nothing to the story. Why should HRC have to admit to anything?
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:13 PM
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30. Can you point to WHEN you were an Obama supporter? What a joke.
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