At the risk of starting another Hillary Clinton flame war....

[Haole Girl]

Has it occurred to anybody else, if she is this divisive to Democrats (and you can see the flame fest in LBN as an example), how... how is she electable?

Don't get me wrong. I think Hillary is very bright.. and would make a good president. I really do. Still-- I want a Democratic candidate who is electable.

Please excuse me if this is too political for the Lounge. I'm afraid to post it anywhere else.

:scared:

[Godhumor]

1. As always, DU does not represent a random sample taken from a population at large

Views on DU are not indicative...yada yada yada.

[Haole Girl]

5. I hope you are right. nt

[Godhumor]

10. There's no "hope" involved, it's simple statistics

A non-randomly selected sample never shows anything relevant to the population. It's why DUers continue to express shock at how well she does in general when she is a pariah on this site; the sample is biased.

[LynneSin]

16. If we were - Howard Dean would be president right now

I swore the guy was going to get the nomination

[Deep13]

2. I don't think she's all that devisive to D.

I do not think DU is in any way representative of the D. party as a whole. Frankly, one of the lessons of 2000 is that the far left (to the extent the USA has one) cannot be counted on anyway, so it is better to play to the center.

[Haole Girl]

8. Thanks

Hope you are right.

[malta blue]

3. ...

No comment but
:hi: KC2 - how are ya?

[Haole Girl]

4. I'm fine, thanks. Why no comment?

This is one of the things that bothers me.

Now is the time to speak up.

:-(

[malta blue]

7. Ahhh because I know that whoever the

nominee is, I will vote for him/her, regardless.

She is not my first choice, as you can tell from my avatar, but que será, será...

[Haole Girl]

11. This is true

I will too... whoever it is.

[NewJeffCT]

6. I'm starting a new thread in GD:P "DUer KC2 thinks Hillary is Unelectable"

and link it to this thread:

:evilgrin:

just kidding - I wouldn't do that to anybody.

[Haole Girl]

12. I thought you were my friend

:cry:

[meegbear]

9. Sob why are you risking statring one in the Lounge?

people come to this part of DU to AVOID the political bickering in the other forums.

[Haole Girl]

13. I'm sorry.... I thought about that....

I'll alert on it and ask the mods to lock it or move it.

You are right.

Sorry. :hug:

[Fleshdancer]

14. It's primary season so I can't think of any Democrat that doesn't create a flame fest here

I use to think it was sad to see what we do to our own candidates here, but now I just sort of accept it as something I will never be able to control and I delude myself into believing it just makes them tough enough for the bigger battles to come.

:shrug:

Like I've said before...wake me up when the primaries are over and point me to the surviving Democrat.

[DS1]

15. This thread is useless without lulz

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. Republicans are dead meat

Whoever gets the Democratic nomination should sweep the general election, given how badly Cheney/Bush have screwed up the economy and everything else.

Hillary could eat at Olive Garden and still get elected.

Or drive around in a big SUV.

[alarimer]

18. I wouldn't discount her chances

She won reelection quite handily in New York, even upstate which is generally more conservative than the city. Not that New York is the country by any means.

I think the Republicans are so pathetic as a group that any Democrat should win, unless they totally screw up somehow. It is true that the Republicans will fling any and all mud but we have heard most of it before. There is no new mud. Sure, she's made a few missteps (but they all have). I am not a huge fan but I am reasonably okay with her being President, for the simple reason that her appointments to the Supreme Court and other courts will not be complete knuckle-draggers. That is as much as I am hoping for. We will not leave Iraq anytime soon, no matter who is elected. None of them will do anything about global warming because (with the exception of Kucinich) they are ALL beholden to corporate interests to a large degree. Electing a Democrat and increasing our hold on Congress will only delay the inevitable. In fact, we are so far down the road to hell that I am not sure even if we somehow brought FDR back from the grave that we can come back from it.

[SaveElmer]

19. In fact...she has the highest net positives among Democrats...

Of any of the candidates...

[wyldwolf]

20. has it occurred to you DU is not representative of the Dem electorate at large?

[JackORoses]

23. has it occurred to you that Hillary is not representative of the Dem electorate at large?

[William769]

21. And you using DU to gage this?

:rofl:

[CyberPieHole]

22. Progressive Democrats call her a conservative and rpugs call her a liberal...

and she really is more often than not a moderate. A moderate is needed to win.

[Tejanocrat]

24. I don't know how she plays in Blue States but she's ballot poison in Texas. She'd cost us plenty of

downballot races if she were to lead our ticked.

The Republicans in Texas are disheartened about their choices for nominee. They will stay home in droves unless we give them a reason to show up at the polls. Beating Hillary is the only think that could drag many of these numbskulls to the ballot box.