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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:30 AM
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So who supports this guy Edwards?
A short list of working and concerned Americans:

Friends of the Earth Action - 100,000 members in the US
United Steelworkers - 1.2 Million active and retired
United Brotherhood of Carpenters & Joiners - 520,000 active members
Transport Workers Union - 200,000 active & retired
United Mine Workers - 105,000 active & retired
Iowa Postal Union - 3,000 members
Iowa caucus for Priorities - 10,000
San Mateo Straw Poll
Wellstone Club
El Ceritto Democratic Club

SEIU:

California - 600,000 +
Washington - 100,000 +
Oregon - 46,000
Iowa - 2,000
New Hampshire - 10,000
Massachusetts - 90,000
Ohio - 22,000
Minnesota - 28,000
Michigan - 70,000
West Virginia - 4,000
Montana - 500
Idaho - 450

"John Edwards is the only Democratic candidate with the vision, leadership and strength needed to win, not just the primary but also the general election. In the battleground states that I represent, Edwards' broad appeal and strength at the top of the ticket will help Democrats in races at every level. He will help us build a true mandate that will bring real change to Washington, end the war in Iraq, bring truly universal health care, labor law and immigration reform- and these are the things that will improve the lives of working families across America."
Dave Regan, representing the SEIU state councils in Ohio and W. Virginia

I stand with these hard working Americans in support of John Edwards.

Tell me, how do you haters plan to attack this?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:30 AM
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1. Normally about less than 10% of any given poll?
:shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:32 AM
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4. You missed three words...
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 11:33 AM by ClassWarrior
"Normally about less than 10% of any given Corporate Media controlled poll."

NGU.


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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:33 AM
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5. Unless you look at the only polls that count right now.
Iowa

Go tell that to someone not as well versed in politics. Most Duers are too smart to believe national polls right now. I'm frankly surprised you do.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:36 AM
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8. "normally less than 10%" ?
Have to admit I've never seen him that low :shrug:

I know there's "normally less than 10%" in the polls that have him kicking GOP butt by 5% or so.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:46 AM
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15. The Hillary drones focus on the national polls (which mean very little) because they FEAR Iowa
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:04 PM
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18. Edwards fears hillary.
We saw how he cowered at the debate. :rofl:
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:37 PM
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42. man, does this hrc smugness get old and sad and nearing creepy
why do you support her? say why. i challenge you.

He absolutely did not cower, and it's bizarre for an adult to write that he did.

the only fear going on betwixt those two is her fear that his support is growing, and that he is real when she is not....


she knows the truth of:

'one thing you can't hide, is when you're crippled inside' - John Lennon.


He is strong. She is desperately trying to create the illusion of strength, which is why she is incapable of vision - all her effort go into this illusion. all the efforts of the campaign and her supporters are spent trying to strong-arm this illusion. I pray the country doesn't fall for it. there would be very deep buyer's remorse.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:51 AM
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60. What is it with so many of her supporters belittling others?
You'd think people could be gracious when their candidate has this kind of a lead. But no, there seems to be this random bitterness and paranoia among them.

NGU.


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Reno.Muse Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:43 AM
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54. I saw him yesterday in Reno, NV and he didn't sound or look like he feared
her or any neocon in this country or any bloated corporatation.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:07 PM
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69. I was there to...
Very inspiring.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:14 PM
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48. OPer was doing good until: "Tell me, how do you haters plan to attack this?"
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:14 PM by MethuenProgressive
That crap reinforces all the reason his DU supporters are thought of like they are.
You're not helping.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:31 AM
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2. I do!
I also like Kucinich and Obama.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:32 AM
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3. I'm a DK guy
...but will vote for Edwards if he is our nominee.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:35 AM
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7. Thank you
I think DK has a once in a generation mind. I'd love to see him as Speaker, or Secratary of State.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:28 PM
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40. I'm a DK Lady
and though I would vote for Edwards if he becomes the nominee --I'd be holding my nose.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:33 PM
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46. I'd be holding my nose for all of them
...the only difference would be how tightly.

The worst Dem is better then the best Reep, but there's a looooooooooong way between DK, whose greatest fault is an excess of candor, and the rest of the pact, whose greatest collective fault is the opposite.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:35 AM
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6. I Do!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:38 AM
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10. Wow, look at all this support from real working Americans!
Thanks Duers!
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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:38 AM
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9. Me! n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:40 AM
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11. 600 + at a town hall meeting in Reno support him too!
I was there nov 18. Pictures coming soon.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:41 AM
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12. Me, too. n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:44 AM
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13. Thank you!
This is important info for everyone. I'm keeping it kicked.
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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:45 AM
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14. I Do!
John Edwards is by far the best choice to take America in a new direction. The 2008 election is not about politics, parties or posturing. It is about the future of our nation and the world. We cannot make the mistake of electing the wrong pesron for the job again. Neither our children nor the world can afford another dunce in the White House.

I hope and pray that our next President will be John Edwards. God's speed....
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. Wow,
Look at all of this positive support for a man that supports working Americans!

I'm so proud!
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mrfixit Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:58 PM
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67. New Direction? Riiiiiight....straight down the toilet.
Edited on Tue Nov-20-07 01:05 PM by mrfixit
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT when you say:

"We cannot make the mistake of electing the wrong person for the job again. Neither our children nor the world can afford another dunce in the White House."

from Edwards' voting record:
http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=21107

02/02/2000 Bankruptcy Reform bill - Voted Y
11/19/2002 Homeland Security Act of 2002 - Voted Y
05/21/2004 Condemning Iraq Abuse of Prisoners resolution - DID NOT VOTE
10/11/2002 Use of Military Force Against Iraq - Voted Y
10/06/2004 National Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 - DID NOT VOTE
10/25/2001 USA Patriot Act of 2001 - Voted Y
09/14/2001 Military Force Authorization resolution - Voted Y
09/16/2003 FCC Media Ownership bill - DID NOT VOTE
09/19/2000 U.S.-China Relations Act of 2000 - Voted Y

Edwards talks like a Democrat, but he VOTES LIKE A REPUBLICAN DUNCE.

I wish that he took half the care in voting he takes when selecting a freakin' hairdresser.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:49 AM
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17. Just in case you want a personal take-
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:23 PM
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19. Easy...by citing his record...which contradicts virtually everything...
He now says he stands for...

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:48 PM
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21. You people really crack me up....
One of the very definition of a liberal, is someone with an open mind. Someone willing to change his/her views when the world changes. Tell me, do you hold exactly the same views you held 4 years ago? If you do then that is sad, because it means you have learned nothing.

Think about it.

Do more than attack.

And tell me why you disagree with all these hard working Americans?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:56 PM
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23. Oh please...
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:57 PM by SaveElmer
When you switch your position on virtually EVERY issue, try to hide your record...all the while attacking others for theirs...

Makes you a panderer and a hypocrite...

NAFTA, China Trade, Drivers Licenses for undocumented workers, right to work laws, Yucca Mountain, IWR, Universal Health Care...and on and on...


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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #21
41. I guess you feel that --
Kucinich is very sad and has learned nothing.

Sorry --I'll go with someone who walks the walk when they talk the talk.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #41
64. Actually, Kucinich has learned a lot. He's changed his position...
...on reproductive rights.

Sorry, but your analogy fails.

NGU.


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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #64
70. He hasn't changed on every single position he held 4 years ago.
Edwards is a paper tiger.
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Amanita Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:31 PM
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20. People oblivious to candidates' records?
People ignorant of what happened to the 2004 elections/theyr vote? :shrug:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:56 PM
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22. Changing your views when you have new info, is, um, bad?
Gee, I had no idea.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:17 PM
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27. Yeah that's it,
all the info was wrong when he voted for the China trade deal, and the bankrupcy bill, and the Patriot Act, and the IWR, and H1-B visas, and the practice of Mountaintop removal by the mining industry, and storing nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain. Yep, poor guy, getting stuck with all that bad information back then.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. You can argue with me,
That's everyone's right. But how do you turn a blind eye to the organizations that support Edwards?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:37 PM
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37. I can't explain how anyone at all buys into
his magical transformation on so many different issues. They're taking him on his word, not on his record obviously.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:12 PM
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43. Simply put?
There is a significant segment of the population that feel they've been beat down for too long. We need something to believe, and for some of us, John Edwards is IT. I know you are a smart, and thoughtful person or you would not be here, please consider that when John Edwards was a senator, he was the senator from North Carolina. He was morally bound to represent all of the people of NC, a pretty red state, let's face it. As President of the United States John Edwards will show that he represents majority of the people in this country. The working people. Not the corporations. Not the wealthy.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:11 PM
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24. The only politician I cannot think of who has NOT grown on some issues is Bush. Which candidate has
failed to grow on some issue? Even Kucinich, who has been very consistent over decades on populist issues, has evolved on reproductive rights. Gore has undergone a political evolution twice as impressive as Edwards. Who's the simpleton you prefer who cannot chance his or her mind or evolve as a thinker and politician? I don't think that describes any of our candidates but it does sound a bit like Bush, Tancredo, Hunter, and Paul.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:15 PM
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25. I do
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:16 PM
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26. And... we thank you.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:14 PM
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28. me too!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:19 PM
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29. Bottom Line On Edwards Vs Hillary
(Hello copy and paste)

Recognizing that the only candidates who stand a chance to be elected in the context of our broken system will be subject to *some* degree of special interest money, you have to consider:

How MUCH money have they taken? Ok, so Edwards and Clinton both have around 10% of undisclosed funding. Does that make them even? Not exactly. If Edwards has $100 of special interest money (fake example obviously) and Hillary has $1,000, I'm more worried about 10% of $1,000. I'm reminded of the phrase "with great power comes great responsibility". But in this case, it should be "with Big Money comes Big Responsibility...to payback those who funded your campaign".

Also, Edwards has much more populist stances and policy proposals, ranging from all of those things I mentioned (public funding of elections, paper ballots, a citizen congress) to a less corporate driven health care plan, as well as less hawkish positions on war. Many of these things directly contradict the very special interests that most concern me, and those I feel should and would concern most Americans.

So again, is he influenced? Yes, sadly ANYONE who wins is going to be influenced. The question is, *how much* influence, and also, how is potential influence already effecting stated policy and stances. And when I balance those things (potential influence from special interest, vs potential to actually win the nomination/election vs populist, pro democracy positions), Edwards comes out on top.

If we had a cleaner system (with publicly funded elections and less media consolidation/absurdity) I'm sure I'd be with DK, as would many others. But we don't, so I'm with JE. You can say that I'm wrong, but if the choice is between a poor man's DK in the Whitehouse vs a corporate democrat in the Whitehouse, well, it's no contest.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Well said!
Man, there are some smart people here!

:applause:
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:27 PM
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32. That's how I feel: If we can't elect Dennis, I'm for the candidate whose agenda is nearest Dennis's
which Edwards.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:19 PM
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30. Not me...n/t..
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:33 PM
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34. Edwards for me
He's the only candidate I trust to work hard for we the people.

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:34 PM
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35. Edwards represents working folks
so that would make this DU household supporters!
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:36 PM
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36. I'm for Edwards .. 100%.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:40 PM
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38. I proudly support John Edwards!
Back when it was fashionable to jump on the "choose your candidate" bandwagon in the beginning of the year, I waited. I thought long and hard about who should receive my support.

John Edwards has shown maturity and willingness to right the wrong he has done. He will make us all proud.

R&K
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. And you win the 100% right award!!!
:applause:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:03 PM
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44. I do.John Edwards is the real candidate of change.He is the only one who can beat back the
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 08:04 PM by saracat
corporations! John Edwards is the champion of the working man!
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:07 PM
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45. Edwards has some good qualities, but I believe it is Obama
who can truly being the transformational change this country and the world needs.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #45
55. I don't think the Edwards Supporters will attack you
for your beliefs or your opinions.

Good luck to your candidate!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:10 PM
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47. You can't fool working people. They know a strong advocate when they see one.
And in significant numbers they see one in John Edwards.

Go, Johnny, Go.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:27 PM
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52. Too true.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:16 PM
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49. All of those people are wasting their time and money..
Edwards will lose BIG TIME. Theman has practically ived in Iowa for the past six years and, even with the decline of Hillary, he still is in third place despite almost 100% recognition. People don't lke John Edwards. If he has any dignity left, he'll drop out.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:14 AM
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53. Are you kidding?
That's it? That's all ya got? You'll never get IT.

Have a nice day and good luck.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:47 PM
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50. Me!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:51 PM
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51. And, ME!!! IN POLL AFTER POLL HE DECIMATES THE GOP CANDIDATES
And yet, he "can't win?" WHY THE HELL NOT?

He's got my primary vote for sure!
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tangerine1700 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:25 AM
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56. Found you!!
hey dad, it's me! i didn't have much time to read your stuff yet, but i will!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:27 AM
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57. Hey there, tangerine1700. Just wanted to say
welcome to DU.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:28 AM
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58. Welcome to DU!
:toast::bounce::hi:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:41 AM
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59. Of the "Top 3", I support Edwards,
I like Kucinich best of course but Edwards seems to be the second best when it comes to labor and I'm a die-hard Union guy.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:23 AM
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61. Gore is my first choice, Kucinich second with Edwards a very close third. nt
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 05:38 AM
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62. It's about the Class War
Anyone who considers that a major issue in America will be voting for Edwards.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 06:53 AM
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63. Lots of support for Hillary from progressive groups...
The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:03 PM
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68. Then they both have some support.
Great. I'll stand with the working Americans behind John Edwards any day of the week.

Good luck to you're candidate!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 10:03 AM
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65. I like John Edwards but I like Dennis Kucinich very much. nt
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:51 PM
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66. I wish Kucinich could win.
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