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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:20 AM
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Mrs. Clinton's forgotten fling with the Killer of Karachi
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:24 AM by IndianaGreen
Hillary's Musharraf

Mrs. Clinton's forgotten fling with the Killer of Karachi
by Greg Palast


November 13th, 2007- He was the other man in Hillary's life. But it's over now. Or is it?

You've seen all those creepy photos of George Bush rubbing up against Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf, the two of them grinning and giggling like they're going to the senior prom. So it's hard to remember that it was Hillary and Bill who brought Pervez to the dance in the first place.

(snip)

But, unlike Saddam and Osama, creations of Ronald Reagan's and George Bush Sr.'s Frankenstein factories, Musharraf was a Clinton special.

And it all began with an unpaid electricity bill. In 1998, Pakistan wouldn't pay up millions, and they owed billions, to British and American electricity companies. And for good reason: the contracts called for paying insanely high prices. It smelled of payola - and ultimately, the government of Pakistan filed charges against power combine executives and canceled the contracts. That's the rule under international law: companies can't collect on contracts they obtained by pay-offs.

But these weren't just any companies. One was a Tony Blair favorite, Britain's National Power. The other was Entergy International, a sudden big-time player in the international power market based out of, oddly, Little Rock, Arkansas. Despite the Clinton Administration's claim to fight foreign corruption, this was an exception. Clinton and Blair voted to cut off Pakistan's funding from the IMF. Pay-up the power pirates, they told Pakistan, or starve.

Why was President Clinton so determined to crush Pakistan because of an unpaid bill to some Little Rock company. This was not just any company. But that wasn't much. More important, Entergy and its partners, the Riady Family of Indonesia had just paid about half a million dollars to Hillary's old Rose Law Firm partner Webster Hubbell. Odd that, hiring Hubbell. Why would Entergy pay big bucks to a Hubbell as a "consultant" when he was on his way to jail for a felony. Hubbell was doing time because he refused to testify against Ms. Rodham.

Did President Clinton know about the payment to Hubbell? Clinton denied it to the press,but under oath, to the FBI, Bill said he, "wouldn't be surprised" if the Riadys told him about the payoff to Hubbell in one of Bill's several private meetings with them in the Oval Office.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0711/S00236.htm
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:26 AM
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1. So, let's get this straight.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 12:34 AM by Basileus Basileon
Pakistan was not repaying its debts. Some of these debts were to energy firms, one of which was based in Arkansas, and one of which was based in Britain. President Clinton and Blair voted to cut off Pakistani funding from the IMF. No links are given between this decision and these particular power companies. No links are given between Blair and any power companies. Now, the link between Senator Clinton and Musharraf:

Musharraf took control of Pakistan after instability, which was in part possibly caused by IMF "cutting off" Pakistan's funding several years prior, which was urged in part by Senator Clinton's husband. Senator Clinton had an old business partner who received money from an investment firm which had a stake in an energy company which was owed money by Pakistan's defaulting government. There are no causative links anywhere in here, nor any evidence beyond "this thing happened near this thing."


I'm sure they'll eat it up on Clinton-killed-Vince-Foster sites.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:32 AM
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2. Hillary has protected Entergy's business interests in a NY nuclear power plant
and it was the Clintons that hired Dick Morris.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:33 AM
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3. That does not establish
a single causative relationship to fix the problems in reply#1.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:08 AM
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9. Logic Is To Hillary Haters What Meat Is To Hindus
DSB
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:27 AM
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30. This thread is why DU absolutely sucks sometimes.
Start a thread about an Edwards quote that makes him look bad: Locked.
Make a post pointing out Obama made a rookie mistake trusting Bob Novak: Deleted.
Post pure bullshit hitjob gossip about Clinton: 10 recs for the greatest Page.

Gawd, I love DU.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:10 AM
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33. Well said - this is Fox material only - but Fox will run it until the election n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:36 AM
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4. You're becoming disgusting.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:57 AM
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6. It's part of getting old .
I guess.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:39 AM
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5. What the hell is wrong with you?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:58 AM
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7. More corruption skeletons in the Clinton closet. Great.
And she stole Obama's "change" and "turn the page" slogans? WTH does she think she's kidding?

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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:01 AM
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8. You know, Obama invented those slogans.
No candidate had ever run on the platform of "change" before. And he invented the phrase "turn the page."
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:11 AM
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10. Can Bob Seger Sue Him?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:16 AM
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12. Is Seger running for prez?
Not.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:19 AM
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13. Wow
It's ok to plagiarize some people and not others...

How does that work?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:25 AM
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17. Ask Seger.
Then keep toking.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:15 AM
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11. Yeah, it was a coincidence, I guess.
Not.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:21 AM
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14. You're right. It's not a coincidence that two Presidential candidates
are using the oldest, most hackneyed campaign slogans for an opposition candidate to use. However, it isn't one stealing from the other, either.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:24 AM
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16. I believe in the tooth fairy, too.
Not.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:35 AM
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19. You do seem to have a predilection towards fanciful explanations for the mundane. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:58 AM
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22. You've got it backwards.
I see mundane facts while Hillaryworld apologists spin fanciful fiction.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 11:37 AM
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35. I'm sure you see many things.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:39 PM
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37. Today, I see Obama is leading in first AND second choices in Iowa.
Bless those Iowans.

lol
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:42 PM
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38. I agree. Of the top three, Obama is the best by far. nt
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:01 AM
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24. Also, Hope (TM) is a registered trademark of Barack Obama, Inc.
Sprinkle it on your cereal! It makes everything bland taste better.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:22 AM
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15. very interesting....
i just spent about 20 or so minutes googling everyone involved in greg`s article. very interesting bunch of characters and time lines.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:29 AM
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18. RNC oppo-research thinks so, too.
That's why Republicans are praying every day that she becomes the Democratic nominee:
Clinton has enough baggage to sink The Titanic all over again.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:35 AM
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20. she wants to campaign about her experience
by the side of her husband those years so she can`t complain when this is brought up. if she wants to clear the air make those notes/records public.
i do`t think they will try to sink her ,they want her.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:49 AM
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21. Yeah, being First Lady now counts as executive branch experience, so where are the WH papers???
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 01:51 AM by ClarkUSA
You know, the ones Bill put a gag order on until 2012.

*crickets*

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:01 AM
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23. No
they have a bunch of bullshit. Bullshit that DUers are only too happy to repeat here.

It's disgusting, and you all should be ashamed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:48 AM
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28. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
mrfixit Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:16 PM
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36. Does ANYONE actually want a POTUS
That came to power in the Senate ONLY by riding her husbands's coattails?

That can only get into power by leveraging her husband's connections and popularity?

If she is nominated, I will just not vote. Why bother? She doesn't stand for anything I value. Doesn't stand for ANYTHING long, anyway.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:13 AM
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26. And...?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:08 AM
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25. "Fling"? "Payoff"?
I think we are all impressed and amazed that Mr. Palast, with so few resources, has been able to uncover a vast criminal conspiracy that was playing out right under the well-funded nose of Kenneth Starr.

I am sure there is not one slimy word of distortion or unprovable innuendo in this entire piece of magnificence.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:42 AM
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27. Gee that Hillary.....
First she had a torrid affair with Vince Foster and then she killed him.

Then she had an affair with Musharraf and goodness knows what she did in Pakistan.

Then wonders of wonders she had an affair with her female campaign worker.

Boy she sure gets around and she gives all the sexes a chance.

Can the Obama followers find any other lies to post. Guess not...I have two damn good ones about him, but I won't post them. But they are making the rounds of all the other democratic sites...search and ye shall find.

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 07:08 AM
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29. Thanks, IndianaGreen! Thanks Greg! There's just aren't enough smears of Hillary going around.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:38 AM
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31. Has she stopped killing puppies yet?
I'm no Hillary lover but sheesh this one is sooooooo thin.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:50 AM
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32. This is a spectacularly contemptible post. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You have no evidence whatsoever of any form of wrongdoing. It's a completely and utterly unsubstantiated smear, against a fellow Democrat.

You should apologise, and hang your head in shame.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 09:24 AM
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34. bttft
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