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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:06 PM
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John Edwards proves, one again, that he is for the American
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 12:11 PM by texpatriot2004
people and against a "rigged and corrupt system" of government. Once again, John Edwards has indicated that he knows what the real problems are, corruption and corporations that are literally taking over the government. John Edwards is willing to take them on. Go John!


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:08 PM
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1. I agree, applaud, and recommend.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:10 PM
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2. I think he's a good man
I'm voting for Kucinich but like Edwards as well. K&R :thumbsup:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:12 PM
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3. Edwards and Kucinich are my favorites nm
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:01 AM
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34. I've been a Kucinich supporter all along
but I'm wavering towards Edwards now. He's the progressives best hope with a reasonable chance of being elected.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:21 PM
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4. Thank you John Edwards for representing the "real Americans' and not the lobbyists and corporations!
It is time we had a voice in this government.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:31 PM
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5. High time! nm
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:33 PM
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6. Why don't more people see that?
Edwards stands up for we the people, including we the people who have loved ones serving in Iraq.

snip from The Nation: page 21, Nov. 19, 2007 issue (Xpost)

Probably the most retrograde element of Hillary Clinton's and Barack Ogama's foreign policy platforms is the proposal to increase the Army and Marines by at least 80,000 troops (John Edwards has refused to join the "bidding war" over who can propose the largest troop increases).

While Edwards aims to strengthen the military, he doesn't believe sheer numbers are the only way to go about it.

Oh, and when asked if, as president, he would keep troops in Iraq, Edwards said NO.

I like Edwards more and more all the time.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:40 PM
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7. Edwards says things that resonate with me. The more I pay
attention to him, the more I like him.

As for why don't more people see it? Not sure, personal bias, the fact that the corporate media is pushing Hillary and Edwards, until recently wasn't getting the press that Hillary has, also, many people don't understand the real problem/threat that corporations and corruption pose to our government either they don't want to believe it or they aren't paying attention - in my opinion.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:44 PM
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20. Edwards tells two different stories about what he'll do
with Iraq. He's going to take the troops out but then he's going to put them back in again.

Hillary and Obama say raise 80,000 troops. Edwards says make the military bigger too but doesn't have precise number and won't bid. Edwards sounds the same as Obama and Hillary to me.

Why can't people see what a great guy John Edwards is? I believe all the Democratic candidates are on the side of the people. Why doesn't John Edwards believe that?
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:53 PM
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8. The more the media dismisses him the more I like him.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:27 PM
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10. "and when they own the information oh they can bend it all they
want" John Maher Waiting on the World to Change
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:12 PM
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9. Odd OP.
Claims proof, gives none. John Edwards gives lip service, little action.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:54 PM
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11. yet has 13 "Recs"!
(As of 1:45 p.m.)

John Edwards lacks credibility.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:58 PM
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12. And now it has 14.
Because he is speaking the truth.

The system is rigged. Funny how people will vote against their own best interests just for sport.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:01 PM
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13. Now it has 16!
Edwards 2008! :bounce:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:15 PM
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15. The Edwards 'please rec my post' email loop is still active!
:rofl:
Edwards, the Dukakis for a new generation.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:52 PM
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17. And infomercials run ad nauseum.
People buy what smooth talkers sell.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:33 PM
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14. You need proof that the system is rigged?
It's amazing that you can't see that for yourself.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:51 PM
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16. I need proof that he is for the American people.
My impression and opinion is that he is, and has been for quite some time, for John Edwards as President.He will say and do whatever his advisers tell him to say or do to achieve that goal.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 07:13 PM
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18. I don't agree but....
Please tell me which candidate isn't doing just what you accuse Edwards of doing. I would be very interested in knowing.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:09 PM
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19. I'm not thrilled with any of them but I would say DK for a start.
Looking at their records, Edwards seems the most inconsistent and reinvents himself to the daily cause celebre. He went from singing a duet with Lieberman in '04 to a DK cover vocalist in '08. Too slick for my tastes. I rank him eighth in the field of Dems.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:27 PM
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22. Look who Gore chose as a VP candidate. Everybody makes mistakes.
I think to now give Edwards the nod would be a huge error for the Democratic party.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:41 AM
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27. He and everyone else...
Except for Kucinich. The rest, well, I doubt they will walk their talk. They are all simply wanting to become president. And could care less about the American people. Kucinich stood up to Pelosi and Hoyer and all of these other candidates and addressed the priority of the American people who gave the Democrats a majority in Congress - they wanted and still want an end to the most corrupt and the most criminal administration this country has ever seen. And not an end that comes at the polls. They wanted and want an end that comes through a trial for impeachment and removal from office. They want the Republican Party held accountable as well. These other candidates are just fine with Bush remaining in office along with Cheney. They provide an easy platform to run for president on. With total disregard for what is right for the American people.

I will vote for whoever wins the nomination. But I will hold my nose when I do. Unless it's Kucinich. Then I will hold my head up and say, oh, there is still hope. I am not sure there is hope with the others.
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:33 AM
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31. This says it for me too, Baby Snooks!
DK is the only one I feel I can trust to stand for & do what he says. And he says it all right!
:thumbsup:
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:05 AM
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36. If his platform is progressive and he gets the
nomination (and then the presidency) on that platform do you think he (or his advisors) will tell that suddenly becoming an (ugh)centrist is a good idea? That his popularity as president will be helped by an agenda that goes against what got him elected? I think not.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:35 PM
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39. Do you think his agenda will matter?
After trashing Congress for doing what he did when he was in Congress, I don't think they will respect or work with him. I think becoming President is more important to him than honesty. I also do not trust his judgment, based on his record.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 11:19 PM
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21. As of the last debate we have decided to support Edwards. His proven record
of going after corporate wrong doers is important in regaining the ground Bush has stolen from us and the ground Hilary won't take back to turn things around for workers in this country. We simply feel he is the stronger candidate in restoring economic futures for our sons.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:25 AM
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23. It's a bit disheartening
to see some of the respondents here, digging at John's standing and credibility. But in my 62 years on this globe, I've known and worked around folks like this and realize they have a right to follow their own idealistic path even tho it's a trail to futility. Even tho their ideals won't find gratification, it's one of the freedoms we hope to preserve by electing a president like John Edwards. Without their unreachable goals, there'd be no furtherment of hope and so they do those of us with more realistic endeavors a favor.
Go John Go!

:dem:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:02 AM
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24. the fact that he TALKS ABOUT THIS OPENLY
at a nationally televised debate really helps seal the deal that he's not messing around - we all know damn well the neocons plans - it's written out - and he's actually attacking their plans with reverse plans of his own - that's brave to me - and I am honored to support him! I hope he picks Biden or Obama for VP, that should help quell the Hillary boo birds from the GOP side from even wanting to vote b/c we'll have a slam dunk combination.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:10 AM
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30. He's openly declaring himself an enemy of the oligarchs...
You can't go around saying the stuff he says in public without really pissing some important and powerful people off. He's telling the American people things that the Fat Cats do NOT want us to be hearing.

If he's posturing, he's painting a bullseye on himself to no good end. The ONLY way he can possibly redeem his words is if he wins and follows through. If he doesn't, they'll destroy him.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:02 PM
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40. it makes me align to him even more because he does this - it's very brave
and you wouldn't do it unless you stood for it - look how tame Sen. Clinton's words are compared to his own.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:30 AM
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25. Taking them on
He sure did say the right words at the last debate, but were they sincere? Time will tell.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 01:38 AM
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26. I agree
Eddie is everything for everybody.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 02:07 AM
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28. Saw him just today at town hall in Reno.
Pictures to come tomorrow. Here's my take on the day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=257x1348

Bring our America back, vote Edwards!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:42 AM
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29. k + r
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:50 AM
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32. I like what he says, not what he did when he had the chance.
The fact is, his record in the Senate is of a centrist/conservative. And I don't entirely trust election conversions- by any candidate.
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Bryan Sacks Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:51 AM
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33. I am glad to finally agree with cali on something n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:02 AM
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35. To bad he can't prove that with his voting record.
But wait he doesn't vote now, so I guess he can say what he wants. WTG John!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:57 AM
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38. To bad we don't have more candidates who are willing...
to change their hearts and minds when the world is changing around them. So sad. One of the cornerstone of being "liberal" is the ability to keep an open mind. Tell me, do you feel exactly the same now as you did 4 or 5 years ago? If you do I feel sorry for you, because that means you have learned nothing from your experiences.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 10:52 AM
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37. How I wish it were so!
God Bless Dennis Kucinich. He is the real deal.
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