Vincent Bugliosi, OJ and Lee Harvey

[pretzel4gore]

Oliver Stone is a goddam liar, bugliosi says. OSWALD WAS THE ONLY KILLER OF JFK!
i got proof!
period
enuff said
fukk off, nuttin to see heah!
WE tell YOU what you think you THINK you THINK you gonna THINK YOU THINK! and if you disagree with that, you fricking commie bastard traitors, i will kill you with my own bare hands!
BTW, buy my book ;)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05092007/gossip/pagesix/oswald_was_lone_gunman_pagesix_.htm

[eleny]

1. Given that his book is over 1000 pages - he has more to say than you imply

I watched his In Depth interview repeated on C-Span yesterday. He has a lot to say about the issue. I'll read his book since it's coming to my library very soon after I read Hartmann's book which I purchased. B-)

[pretzel4gore]

2. just don't buy it, please!

buglioso has nothing to say about the JFK murder- since Nov22/63 mr pig has been doctoring and fabricating and shredding and so on, all sorts of stuff about the public execution of a leader that a)just wasn't wasp enough for mr pig (bush, incredibly, might turn out too darn wasp!) and b) was actually really popular, even down south!
gerry posner, cia associate agent, did this 'lone shooter' media bit a couple years ago (convicted Lee Harvey on circumstantial evidence and things 'a lil bird' told gerry about that day in November!)
Bugliosi revealed his true colour when he went on incessantly about OJ back in the 90's. His vicious hatred of Simpson made it the duty of every heaven bound human being to defend #32 from the bloodlusters- they wanted to hang simpson (and yeah oj did the kills, but maybe the law should be able to prevail regardless of silly complications- maybe seeing the law aw shucking as too many black people were murdered by lynchmobs even within memory of some older folks sort of put kabosh on that idea; and to cap it off, junyer bush is THEE president in the white's house today, remember)

[Honeycombe8]

3. He researched the matter over years and wrote a lengthy book on it. He is...

also an acclaimed trial lawyer who has won virtually every case he's tried - on both the defense and prosecutorial sides. He's a smart, knowledgeable man.

Doesn't mean he knows everything, of course. But it's pretty persuasive.

I plan on buying his book.

He also has written a similar book about the O.J. murders....and yes, he concludes that OJ "done it."

I've seen several documentaries on the assassination and on Oswald. It's pretty complex, the Oswald movements in the years leading up to the assassination. Very interesting. And without knowing much else about the case, it does make common sense that he did the act and that he was not put up to do it by anyone. As Bugliosi said...if someone, whether the mob or Cuba or whoever, wanted to kill the President of the U.S., they would never pick this mentally unstable, somewhat wacko, unreliable guy who'd never accomplished anything in his life to do such an important task as this. There are many other things indicating Oswald acted alone, but that statement alone, by Bugliosi, sums it up pretty well. It makes sense. There would've been lots and lots of guys more reliable and mentally balanced to do the job. No reason to get this wacko to try it.

[pretzel4gore]

4. Oswald was 24 years old

he spoke perfect Russian, had supposedly defected to USSR where he spent a few years, this after serving in the US Marines (he served at the base where U2 pilot Francis Gary Powers took off for famous flight, and at the time) Efforts to make Oswald look like a nobody have been ongoing since '63, but it's probable he was an active US agent, in the Office of Naval Intelligence, a 'valerie plame', who was then destroyed in the plot to kill JFK; he was set up. Oswald had a FBI number, and his only ph call after his arrest for Officer Tibbet's murder was to a goof who turned out to be a cia/fbi operator. bugliosi hardly had to do anything about OJ- the entire white racist media was and still is, howling for simpson's blood already, guilty or not. And one result of the rightwing's exploitation of the OJ case was the eventual overthrow of legal US government, and criminal control of all 3 branches of the US gov, (not to mention the ass peddlar pigmedia)
And why write a 10 pound book on the JFK murder anyway? especially another one which supports the idiotic lone gunman theory? Who needs it? Especially considering bush has stolen the long suffering country from its people, in broad daylight, using systems formed partially in hiding the truth of JFK murder using lying liar media to sell the snake oil? Peter Jennings died with a $52 million estate, yet he did nothing BUT push the snake oil. Too bad bugliosi wouldn't look into the fabulous wealth of the ass peddlar media whores...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. He Also Wrote A Book Decrying The Clinton Impeachment

And had a mock trial where the legendary attorney , Gerry Spence, defended Oswald and he was the prosecutor and won...

You might not like his conclusions but the man is as far from an idiot as one can be...

[pretzel4gore]

6. Oswald was not responsible for the death of JFK

bugliosi has to know there just no way to prove what really happened in terms of who was responsible for Kennedy riding in an open car slowly past a perfect sniper post such as the TSBD. Oswald had defected from USA, lived in USSR before returning home, yet he was never checked out, and during the cold war's coldest days, that just defies sense- Just like the Norad exercises that were going on at the very time hijackers seized control of 4 jets (a strange circumstance also in play during London subway bombings)
During OJ simpson case, the mob was howling for simpson's blood, yet bugliosi joined in, helping the cacaphony to get heard. Why? And why the hell bring up the JFK mystery now when 911 even moreso creates suspicions about the official stories that defy common sense? If bugliosi is a real investigator/newsman/writer, why not look at the ongoing criminal activities of the neocon pig? Ann Rule once said there were 3 areas of wrongdoing she NEVER got involved writing about, the mafia, the underground rightwing, and politics. Yet bugliosi aticks his nose into one area where, if he discovered anything, he easily get himself or his family killed! So he affirms what billions have been spent proving?
Nonsense

[beaconess]

7. I didn't even know about the book until your post

It sounds very interesting - I don't always agree with Bugliosi (although I often do), he is very knowledgeable and thorough and his books are extremely compelling.

This clearly wasn't your intention, but you just helped Bugliosi sell one more copy of his book - I'm going to buy it and read it for myself.

Thanks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Read His Books On Impeachment And OJ

And of course, Helter Skelter...

I don't have the discipline to read a 1,000 page book though...

[beaconess]

9. Doesn't take discipline at all . . .

Just a lot of patience. :-)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I Peter Out At Four Hundred Pages

I slugged through "Living History" and The "Audacity Of Hope"

[beaconess]

11. I hear you . . .

I used to be able to read for hours and hours on end - and could read 2-3 books a week. Not any more.

I blame it on the internet. We're so used to everything moving at lightning speed, with bells and whistles, it's hard to sit still and concentrate on a book.

:-(

[pretzel4gore]

12. you don't think these people are your enemy?

it's weird the reaction to this post: i made it after listening to bugliosi do an interview with michael enright on CBC radio. bugliosi is a liar. He and enright are the conspiracy theorists...And he is working for the men who want the JFK case to go away, for a few more years. Maybe he rapes lil kids, or something. Like you say, who even knew that bugliosi wrote a book on the case? I only found out listening to Sunday Edition. They sure aren't pushing the book; there's been no mention of it anywhere- which means they're trying to use it to claim using nudgewink that 'the last word' is in etc and Oswald was guilty, the Warren Comm. was right, and all the suspicions unfounded.
i don't care about bugliosi, but wonder how any DU'ers would even give such obvious nonsense the time o day?

"...they talk about the one-bullet or two bullet theory, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no theory. There is my absolute knowlege, and Nellie's too, that one bullet caused the President's wound, and an entirely separate shot struck me...it's a certainty; I'll never change my mind" - Texas Govenor John Connally in a 1966 interview. The 'magic bullet' theory, that says one bullet struck both JFK and Connally, is necessary to the 'lone gunman' deceit because solid forensics prove that 2 shots were impossible from one gun, meaning more then one shooter was involved iow a 'conspiracy' The Warren Comm. confronted evidence almost from the getgo which showed there was at least 3 gunmen, and high level complicity in the murder, but they were required asap before fall of 1964 election to find Oswald only guilty, in the interest of 'national security' (which caused a catch 22 type problem for them: if Oswald only did it, where did national security enter in?)