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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:07 PM
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Rove: "I've Been Surprised at How Weak Edwards & Obama Have Been"
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 01:10 PM by mod mom
“I’ve been surprised at how weak Edwards and Obama have been,” Rove told C-SPAN’s Steve Scully today during a live question-and-answer session with students at three different universities across the country. As if to poke at the fire that in the pending Democratic nomination process, he continued, saying, “They’re both going to give her some scares; she’s going to lose some thing along the way, possibly starting with Iowa.”

Rove went on to provide a little unsolicited advice for the Obama campaign, saying that the Illinois senator has faltered in creating a strong moment of contrast between himself and his opponents during debates. Citing Clinton’s vague answer regarding the release of White House papers during her tenure as first lady, Rove said Obama has had “a number of occasions like that, where a sharp and clear and respectful contrast really could’ve created a moment.”

The former Bush adviser and chief strategist also expressed some surprise with the current GOP field, although he had nothing negative to say about his fellow Republicans. Asked if told six months ago Giuliani would be sitting atop his party’s national presidential polling, he said, “I would’ve raised an eyebrow, and I think Rudy Giuliani has done a very good job at staying on top of the Republican field longer than I anticipated, and with a substantial amount of political support from people I would not have thought he’d be able to draw.”


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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/15/468964.aspx

THE MASTER OF ILL WILL AND PROPAGANDA IS STILL HOPING CLINTON WINS TO BRING OUT THE GOP BASE. HE MUST BE WORRIED ABOUT OBAMA & EDWARDS FIGHTING BACK AT HILLARY'S POLICIES.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:08 PM
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1. He doesn't really mean weak. He just doesn't understand
candidates who aren't drunken AWOL lying frat boys.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:11 PM
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which is another way of saying...
"Oh shit, I underestimated Hillary!"
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:11 PM
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2. What he means is they haven't engaged in the filth the "alleged "front runner has.
From push polls, to planted gossip, to planted questions, the " RW media created Democratic front runner" has been an apt pupil of Mr.Rove. He must be so proud of his protege.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:14 PM
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4. "RW media created Democratic front runner"-EXACTLY!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:13 PM
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3. Translation:
These guys scare the hell out of the Corporate Killers, especially that Edwards guy.

Translation: Hillary Clinton is someone we can work with. Those other two actually seem to give a shit about real Americans.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:24 PM
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8. Corporate Killers, especially that Edwards guy ...LOL
Since when ?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:27 PM
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11. Just read,
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:29 PM
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13. Since He Quit His Hedge Fund Gig I Guess
DSB
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:30 PM
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14. He is the only candidate who has beaten back the corporations in court.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:32 PM
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17. Since Now
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:17 PM
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5. "Weak" is how Karl would describe any candidate who isn't a member of the corporo-political-
neocon power structure currently prevailing.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:21 PM
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6. Thanks for the delusional commentary on top of a dose of Rove
Let's see...

Rove gives sound advice to Obama and Edwards because he wants Clinton.
Rove gives bad advice to Obama and Edwards because he wants Clinton.
Roves compliments Clinton, he's for Clinton.
Rove criticizes Clinton, it's because he's for Clinton and knows that will make Dems like her more.
Rove hangs the toilet paper roll in over-hand fashion... because he's for Clinton.

Just admit you have formed a fixed delusion that Rove wants Clinton, and that no possible factual input will dissuade you from that conviction.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:26 PM
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10. Who is the most devisive candidate who will bring out the GOP base and has alienated
the antiwar left (think IWR & Kyl Lieberman)?

Which candidate's husband is close to the Bush's?

Which candidate's husband recently went public stating Americans don't want impeachment despite polls that say the opposite?

Now where is the "factual input" of which you speak?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:28 PM
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12. Having posulated that you suffer from a fixed delusion, there would be little point
in arguing with you
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:30 PM
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15. Typical Clinton supporter: dishes out attacks with out offering substance. I gave
examples and asked for your "factual input". Guess you have none to offer.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:33 PM
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18. Yet She Beats Every GOOPER In Head To Head Polls
And after last night she has John Edwards' scalp in her closet...
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:21 PM
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7. If the Dems are smart they will pay no attention to
whatever Rove has to say. Ignore, Ignore.

Ben David
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:31 PM
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16. We paid little attention to him and ignored him once.
Look where it got us. These people, and people like them are dangerous to the future of our country.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Burson-Marsteller

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:25 PM
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9. Ha
I thought he wants to run against HRC because he said she's "unelectable"... Some people here said he was genuine and some people said he was trying to psych out Dems by not nominating their strongest candidate...

Who gives a shit?

We rolled him in 06 and proved the emperor has no clothes...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:34 PM
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19. My GOP-RNC friend has been getting a little upset recently
He's a guy who goes to RNC batcave meetings. He just wishes that all the stuff coming on about Hillary just goes away. The RNC is licking their chops for her to be the one to run against.

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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:42 PM
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22. Oh ! that RNC friend
you're right.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:58 PM
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25. When my son was a toddler, he had a "friend "a lot like
your RNC "friend".His name was Gorny and he lived in the fireplace.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:38 PM
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20. Everything Rove says is a lie
Ergo, Obama and Edwards have become very strong.

(One must always carry a Rove to Reality dictionary.)
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:39 PM
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21. Very funny.
Can you tell me where I can get one of those to help with what Hillary says?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:49 PM
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24. Yep!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:47 PM
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23. Hey KKKarl, fuck you, ANY of our candidates
can whoop your candidates asses. 'Nuff said.
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