Would you really like to know why Hillary got applauded & the other guy got booed?

[mtnsnake]

It doesn't have anything to do with Wolf Blitzer, CNN, stacked audiences, rude audiences, or any other lame conspiracy theory.

You see, outside of DU, there is this huge place called The Rest of the World, where many people actually LIKE the good Senator from NY, and they don't appreciate the cheap shenanigans of people like Edwards, who they perceive as a phony and a bully. The positive attention that Hillary is getting out there is just as real as all the negative attention Mr Edwards is receiving.

Sorry, folks, but Hillary Clinton is not the same boogey man that used to haunt the streets late at night. She has worked hard to gain respect, and she is actually turning into one of the more popular political figures across the country. Last night she earned each and every ovation she got, and the other guy got exactly what he had coming to him.

[xiamiam]

1. come on...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. It seemed in keeping with what Iowa did in 2004

The only boos were for direct attacks, particularly comparing anyone to a republican. Fairly or unfairly, a lot of people don't like that stuff. The rejection of Gephardt (and Dean) in Iowa in 2004 seems to back up that piece of CW about Dem primary voters.

Dems who don't follow this stuff super-closely are mad at Bush, not at Clinton or Obama or Edwads.

The argument that the crowd was pro-Clinton is odd, given that Obama got by far the most positive reactions. (And Dodd got the loudest ovation for trashing NCLB... I think there were a LOT of teachers there.)

It is indeed likely that some Clinton supporters started the two notable booing incidents, but they were not inconsistent with the zeitgeist, and some undecideds probably joined in.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. McCain's Campaign Died In 00 When He Told Bush He Was "Like Clinton"

Nobody likes that shit, Rethug or Dem...

[BenDavid]

41. So is this what has happened to Obama's campaign, when

he called Clinton, Bush lite? I guess so according to your analogy.

Ben David

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

47. He has dropped a lot since then, but I don't know if they are connected

Obama was in the mid-high 30s in June

[Egnever]

29. spot on!

Almost every boo I heard last night was in direct response to a percieved attack.

[FatDave]

96. "The only boos were for direct attacks, particularly comparing anyone to a republican."

I don't seem to remember any booing when Hillary said Edwards' attacks were "straight from the republican playbook". Lots of cheering though.

But maybe my memory is wrong. Maybe I need to go fire up the DVR.

[PurityOfEssence]

103. You are correct, and that really does shoot down the contention of this thread

If name-calling or tarring others as being like the conservatives is what got the great glowing beauty of the wondrous human spirit all lathered up, then she should have been booed good and solid at this point, yet not only was she not...

It's sort of a watered-down version of Haile Selassie's speech at the League of Nations when the Italians and their pals booed him.

Were these people plants? Does it really matter? Do people on this board SERIOUSLY think that the people booing weren't Clinton supporters? What if one or two were deliberately instructed to and a few others got swept up in the moment? Things like these are telling in the degree of execution: had they been a low "aw" or disgusted exhale, that would be one thing, but to deliberately interfere with the speaker is another, and to cheer one's champion's insults simply refutes the fact that it was all just honest revulsion at negativity.

[sallyseven]

3. I can honestly say that some people

on DU made up my mind as to who would make the best president,. HILLARY. Some of them are gop plants and some of them are just dumb and childish. Learn the rules of the Senate and House of reps. Don't whine and cry because you cannot get your own way.

[coalition_unwilling]

67. If you want a war monger for president, Hillary's your candidate -n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

77. "If George Bush won't end this war, I will." - HRC

And voted for Kyl-Lieberman, which called for diplomacy instead of military force.
Yeah, some "war monger"...

[coalition_unwilling]

115. Have you even bothered to read the text of Kyl-Lieberman???? It

characterizes Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a "foreign terrorist organization" (whatever that means). Under the Enabling Act passed after 9/11, BushCheney can claim Kyl-Lieberman as an open-ended authorization to use military force aginst Iran.

[Cameron27]

4. Outside of DU

Democrats don't their own compared to republicans. Big mistake.

[jenmito]

7. So how do you feel about Hillary saying Edwards took a page out of the Repub. playbook?

And why didn't she get booed for that?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Because She Was Responding To A Personal Attack From Johnny Boy

When you attack someone, verbally or physically, you don't get to determine the response...That's why it's not wise to attack people... They might be packing, verbally or physically...

[Cameron27]

12. She was responding to another

broadbrushed smear by Johnny. He's been aggressively ugly in the way he's tried to frame her and Bill during most of this primary, so I think that was an appropriate response by Clinton.

[Armstead]

18. Is a criticism of corporate ties ugly?

Sorry but if the truth hurts...

[Cameron27]

48. Sorry, but Edwards himself has ties to the corporate world

[Omaha Steve]

65. Got an example?

Edwards has said from day ONE that he has never taken $1 from a lobbyist. If you've got some info to the contrary, please share with the rest of us. See the video in my sig file.

[Tellurian]

104. Here's an interesting piece on the 2 Faced Edwards you may be interested in reading..

Of course you are aware, every attorney is a lobbyist. And of course you are aware the Trial Attorney's Assn. is where John Edwards has received a good portion of his donations...right? John Edwards pronouncing he has never taken a $1 from Lobbyists is pure BS.

Then we have this:

CITIZEN LOBBYISTS. John Edwards has made it very clear that he thinks lobbyists are the bane of the American political system, and will prevent needed healthcare reform. He said so again at the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Political Action Conference yesterday, warning that if you give industry lobbyists a seat at the table, "they'll eat all the food." So it was with some amusement that I looked up, after Edwards finished his remarks yesterday, to find a man on the stage jazzing up the crowd for the SEIU's "Lobby Day."

"We're going to lobby, and then we're going to lobby some more," he shouted at the crowd. "And then we are going to rally."

And that, indeed, is the SEIU's Political Action Conference's agenda for today. From 10:30 to 11:30, the group is holding "Lobby Day Briefings" at the Washington Hilton, after which participants will be ferried to Capitol Hill by bus. And then, at 1:45, they will hold a "Money for Healthcare, Not War" rally.

In addition to citizen lobbying efforts like today's, the SEIU works with registered federal lobbyists to forward its agenda and weigh in on legislation critical to its members. Since just 2000, Senate records show, the SEIU has worked with: Bond & Co.; Clark & Weinstock; Colling Murphy Swift Hynes Selfridge LLC; Robert Giroux; Jennings Policy Strategies; the Nueva Vista Group; Bill Lynch Associates; and Tighe Patton Armstrong Teasdale.

Additionally, the SEIU has its own in-house registered lobbyist, Alma Henderson, according to Senate disclosure records.

These are likely the sorts of efforts Hillary Clinton was defending at the Yearly Kos conference when she said: "A lot of those lobbyists, whether you like it or not, represent real Americans."

I seriously doubt that the Edwards campaign has a problem with any of this SEIU activity, either, despite his anti-lobbying stance.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=09&year=2007&base_name=post_4977#018082

[Dawgs]

20. What was the broadbrushed smear? Curious, since you didn't post it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. He Said She Was Corrupt

DSB

[Dawgs]

26. Do you have the specific quote, so I can judge it for myself?

[Cameron27]

45. I don't have a specific quote, I'd have to watch the damned

thing for a third time, but he equated her with the corrupt system in Washington, which is typical for Johnny one-note, but not the worst thing he's said about her in this primary.

[MethuenProgressive]

81. He's been using weasel words to smear her for months.

Always too much the coward to be direct.

[Tellurian]

108. Whats interesting about his persona is..

Before an attack, he always prefaces his purity smear with.. "none of us are perfect." Then blah, blah, blah, Sen. Clinton works within a system that is "broken" and "corrupt"... of course, Edwards silence of his Senate record is the perfect representation of votes adding to further break the system.

Hasn't it occurred to any Edwards supporters, strange, Edwards NEVER refers to his 6 yr Senate record? One would ask for clarification from Edwards. Why is that, Mr. Edwards?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

23. right or wrong, the audience has suffered from RW attacks on Mrs. Clinton for 15 years

and they recognize the greatest hits reel, note for note.

It might not be fair, but generic Dems have years and years of practice getting riled up when somebody attacks Hillary.

Ever since 1992, hearing a person attacking Hillary in a bar or workplace has been the best single indicator you were talking to a republican pig.

That's just part of the environment that the other candidates have to operate within. It's an advantage for Clinton, but balanced by the down-side of having been anational punching bag for so long. (The large percentage of Dems who view her as unuslly two-faced is due to some degree to the political background radiation of hearing 100,000 times over 15 years that she is the world's biggest liar.)

[avrdream]

76. Very true, K & H.

Take a current example: the Republican woman completely getting away with calling Senator Clinton a bitch. The crowd was feeding off that comment in a way that RWers always have. And McCain did nothing but try to get even more money for his campaign by using that comment.

I have some dear friends, an old couple from redneck North Carolina (the way they phrase it), and they are pretty strong Republicans - - - even THEY are worn out with negative politics. Normal people in the real world aren't keen about the practice.

[CyberPieHole]

6. She's still a cackling, non-tipping, power-hungry witch!

Or, haven't you heard?:eyes:

Great post, mtnsnake. kick and recommend

:kick:

[jenmito]

9. And I'll vote for her if she's the nominee. Can you say the same about Obama?

Only the 4th time I've asked you. :eyes:

[jenmito]

19. You're something else. Crickets every single time I ask-after you called him Barack Hussein Obama

which only RWers do to try to scare the ignorant into thinking he's really a Muslim trying to become president to change our country into one that follows Sharia law. :eyes:

[Dawgs]

25. Put them on ignore (like me).

If they can't speak intelligently, and only attack, they aren't worth the time.

[jenmito]

31. I have 2 posters on ignore right now. He'd make 3. And I doubt he's even a Dem.

Thanks for the advice! :hi:

[CyberPieHole]

56. Whomever it was you responded to...I have on ignore...

I didn't attack Clinton. Did you read my post?:shrug:

[jenmito]

63. Yeah, right! Then how do you know what I was saying about you?

:rofl: Of course you didn't attack Clinton. You attack Obama by ridiculing his name when you posted, paraphrasing, "Yeah, right, President Barack Hussein Obama? :rofl: "

[jenmito]

71. You were talking with me right up to the point I asked if you'd vote for Obama after I said I'd vote

for Hillary. I don't believe for a second you put me on ignore after that. You simply are afraid to come out and say you won't vote for Barack Obama.

[watercolors]

8. Thank you, you are so right!

DU is a small minority, and getting more to the left every day, I beginning to think they do not see the big picture at all. Talk about being in a bubble!

[cobalt1999]

11. ...but it's a fun bubble.

As long as you don't lose perspective and begin to think the popular opinions/candidates here have any relation with the real world.

[Cameron27]

14. It really is a fun bubble,

and it gives me something to do until I can get back to work.

[ronnykmarshall]

13. Where is this rest of the world place you speak of?

Sounds scary!

:silly:

[AndyTiedye]

61. It Is that Mythical "Center" Where People Still Believe in Bush**

The 24%ers.

[Clintonista2]

15. Thank you. Some DUers needed this reality check. n/t

[PresidentObama]

16. You had the part about liking Hillary right. She's popular there.

The rest...like most of your posts...is just bullshit.

[flpoljunkie]

17. Heard Harry's Reid's state party was reponsible for disturbuting most of the tickets, plus his son

is Hillary's Nevada co-chair. The audience was obviously stacked in her favor.

[mod mom]

27. I think Reid calling of the Mukasey vote was a little too convenient for HRC who

would have received the wrath of aipac if she voted no and the Dems base if she voted yes.

I agree the audience was stacked in her favor. Obama's correction that $97,500 is NOT middle class but the top 6% was met with boos. There should have been cheers at this revealing statement.

[jenmito]

30. Yup. Anytime anyone BUT Hillary pointed out their differences with her they got booed.

And how 'bout the rumor (denied) that Wolf better go easy on Hillary? Notice how "plant-gate" wasn't even mentioned even though the story GREW over this past week?

[Texas_Kat]

51. Edwards mentioned it (as he was asked a question by Blitzer)

Didn't help him with the audience either.

I'm really proud of the way the audience members reacted to Democrats actually talking about the issues.

Positive feedback for real answers, negative feedback for gratutious slams.

[jenmito]

55. That's because he tried to make a stupid joke. Blitzer or one of the other questioners

should've brought up the subject like he did the drivers' licenses.

[Texas_Kat]

59. He's was trying to prompt Blitzer

Fell flat.

[jenmito]

60. I don't think so. I think he was just trying to get in a dig...not prompt Blitzer...

but Blitzer should've brought it up on his own.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Well I heard ...

from my sister-in-law (she lives in LV) that Hillary also got a free pedicure. This told to my sis from a bank teller at Silver State Bank who's cousin's ex-wife's cleaning woman's daughter was in the beauty shop when Hillary came in. AND she DIDN'T TIP!!!!!

See? SEE?

O' shall there be no end to her evil????

[SIMPLYB1980]

39. LMAO!

:yourock:

[Beaverhausen]

36. I had that feeling too.

Planting her supporters in the audience guaranteed it looking like she has the most support.

[Texas_Kat]

53. Debunked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3725977

[Capn Sunshine]

86. UNdebunked

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/16/32040/765

[ronnykmarshall]

88. da funk!

[creeksneakers2]

90. Another falsehood from the Edwards camp

There was no Hillary crowd
That's a bogus excuse the Edwards supporters made up.

The Las Vegas Sun looks at the pool of undecided Democrats who will get to ask questions in the second half of the debate. “About 100 Nevadans will be sitting in the audience at Cox Pavilion, primed to inject state and Western issues during the second hour of the debate. They will be selected by staff at CNN, which is carrying the debate. And whom the network will tap has been something of a mystery. Advocacy groups, including AARP, the ONE anti-poverty campaign and the Culinary Union, say CNN staff asked them to recommend members of their organizations.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/15/46787...

The ONE anti-poverty campaign is a group formed by Bono that is aiming this year to get candidates to talk more about poverty. Edwards couldn't face a more favorable crowd.

Much of the audience was also made up of union members. Edwards has been more successful courting unions than other groups.

If CNN fixed it for anybody, they fixed it for Edwards.

[DeepModem Mom]

21. K&R...

from an Obama supporter with positive feelings for all of our candidates -- and a realistic view of the U.S. and its politics.

[Cameron27]

49. You're terrific

one of the best DUer's around here. :thumbsup:

[Basileus Basileon]

22. You're like 90% correct. However, keep in mind that Edwards is very popular as well,

as is Obama. They think Edwards was acting like a bully there, yes. They do not, however, think Edwards is a phony--he has far higher trustworthiness and "believes what he's saying" scores than she does--nor do they think that Edwards is a bully. His favorables are higher than hers are.

The audience was booing not because they don't like Edwards, but because they like Clinton too, and don't appreciate cheap shots.

[Armstead]

28. Oh thank you for enlightening us poor rubes

I suppose that it doesn't matter that in the "real world" I find it hard to find anyone who is actually enthusiastic about Hillary.

I realize there are, but most people I encounter (from all walks of life) either don;t like her or are resigned to her "inevitable" candidacy.

The biggest boosters of her I can find are those who say "I guess she'd be okay. Anything is better than another Republican."

[Bluebear]

50. I know, huh? The oracle has come down :)

[Mythsaje]

32. Are you saying that the rest of America

don't understand the stakes this time around?

Oh, I agree with you there, if nowhere else.

One candidate on the top tier is willing to take on the entrenched industrial special interests that have been writing and vetting our foreign and domestic policy decisions and leaving the ordinary American out in the cold.

One clue. It ain't Hillary.

[bread_and_roses]

68. I'll second that,. (n/t)

[hijinx87]

33. well said.

[dionysus]

34. one toke over the line, sweet mtnsnake, one toke over the line...

sittin downtown at the DLC station, one toke over the line....

waitin' for the train to DC sweet mtnsnake, hopin' that the train is on time...

sittin downtown at the DLC station, one toke over the line....

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

37. In the rest of the world in Northwest Arkansas

I have yet to find, among my friends and acquaintances, anyone who has anything positive to say about the former First Lady of our state. I'm talking about people who range from Greens to Democrats to Republicans to Libertarians. I didn't watch the debates, but came here for news, so I don't know what Edwards said or did, and am not defending him or commenting on him-this is merely a comment about your part of the OP that states that "many people actually LIKE the good Senator from NY...."

She may be the front runner in the polls, but she has a real likability problem, at least around here. And when you realize that many of the folks I talk to regularly have actually met Mrs. Clinton....well, this doesn't bode well for our party's chances if she is the nominee, I think.

[Lucinda]

73. Well Rasmussen and the Arkansas Times Blog say otherwise - statewise. :)

http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2007/08/arkansas_loves_hillary.aspx

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/arkansas/arkansas_2008_presidential_election

[bvar22]

92. The same in Central Arkansas.

I know one person who supports Hillary.

She is middle aged, and considers herself an informed, educated liberal. She is adamantly convinced that Hillary will "Bring the Troops Home", and give everybody "Universal HealthCare". She refuses to acknowledge Hillary's OWN quotes concerning continuing Combat Missions and "protecting American (Corporate) Interests" indefinitely. She absolutely refuses to entertain the thought that there may be a difference between Mandatory For Profit Health Insurance and single payer Universal HealthCare.

I know Bush Republicans who are more open minded than this Hillary supporter.
It is amusing that my Republican neighbors automatically assume I am a Hillary supporter. They seem shocked to find that there ARE other Democratic candidates better than Hillary. This usually gives me an opening to a discussion of the current Economic mess for which they partially blame Bill. I have been able to use this opening to at least plant the seed that there is a better political way than Bush or Clinton. Most seem relieved to hear this news.



Hillary would rather PLANT questions than answer them!

[SIMPLYB1980]

38. I support this message!

K&R

[kelligesq]

46. When you are booed for telling the truth, which Obama & Edwards were, you know

the audience was stacked with bussed in supporters or crew of Hillary.

She does take money from the lobbyists and will owe them.

Obama correcting her that only 6% of America makes $97,000 is a valid point.

If Hillary is the candidate, I'm pretty sure she wont win - and it looks like the MSM has decided to make her the candidate.

And since she is a globalist as we are realizing Bill is too, I wont be voting for her and the further destruction of America.

The entire DLC are globalists - even Dodd -

[SIMPLYB1980]

62. You must be hot in all that tinfoil.

[Rockholm]

84. Kick and Support This Thread.

[Ninga]

40. The applause and booing took place....because it could. CNN dd not discourage it

nor comment.

I would have done the same thing if I were there.

I don't care if they did, or they didn't. If the format calls for a free for all then it should be stated as such.

[goodgd_yall]

42. If you think your candidate is being called corrupt and crooked

you might boo too. Edwards was talking about taking lobbyists' money, implying HRC can be bought. It was a direct attack, so no one should be surprised he's booed.

[kelligesq]

52. What he said " the system is corrupt, broken, and rigged. And he's correct -

that the shoe fit and she and her supporters took offense because he said she continues to support that system, is just too bad.

Truth to Power.

[oasis]

43. Cream rises to the top (eom)

[BootinUp]

44. WORD UP NT

[calmblueocean]

54. Glad you think so, but don't come crying to DU when the troops are still in the Middle East in 2012.

We tried to warn you.

(Heh, I almost typed 20112 in the subject line! Even I don't think Hillary could keep them there that long. But she'll do her best!)

[dugggy]

57. Correct....Hillary has the nomination sewed up after yesterday

She was professional, spoke with passion, looked great, inspired confidence,
and demolished poor little Johnny.

[polichick]

58. Well said...

There is an amazing disconnect between many posters here and folks in the real world. Hillary is responding to real feelings out there ~ the desire for energy solutions, the concern about our borders, etc. Some may say that Hillary should simply stand by her beliefs, but the president is also supposed to represent the people ~ can't be easy.

(That said, her vote on Iran tells me she's responding to the Israel lobby on that one.)

[Capn Sunshine]

64. Come ON

true , the rest of the world is out there, but Hillary's organization has decided that domineering rowdiness is key to her support, and they are acting just like they do on DU.

THAT is what we took away from Nevada. The establishment insiders favor the insider. What a surprise.

[coalition_unwilling]

66. She has the blood of 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians on her hands and the

blood of 3860+ US soldiers on her hands.

[polichick]

72. So does John Edwards. nt

[Tellurian]

110. Stunning avatar, polichick..

kudos! :-)

[coalition_unwilling]

114. The contrast between Edwards and Hillary is just stunning, though,

isn't it? Edwards has publicly and profusely apologized for his vote and in fact has called it "the worst vote (he) ever cast." Contrast that with Hillary's refusal to apologize. By refusing to apologize for her vote, Hillary is far more complicit in the ongoing catastrophe than Edwards ever could be.

But you go right ahead and vote for the war monger and baby killer. Be my guest. Just remember that, unlike Iraq, Iran is an ethnically homogenous nation (Persian) of 70 million, with a standing army of 1 million and advanced surface-to-surface and surface-to-air defenses. Don't you have to at least question Hillary's judgment that she won't take the miltiary option "off the table" viz Iran? Either that, or she really is just a war monger and baby killer.

[dugggy]

78. And so might have Obama

except he was not elibible to vote.
He can say anything now,
such as all the back peddling he is doing now,
as was brought out at yesterday's debate.

[Capn Sunshine]

87. He was against the war. he gave speeches. He wrote letters

He was AGAINST THE WAR. Hillary voted for it. Period.

You can't unring a bell, Dug.

[coalition_unwilling]

113. Obama and Kucinich spoke out very publicly against the war at a

time when polls showed that * enjoyed between 60-70% approval for the invasion of Iraq. In other words, Obama and Kucinich spoke out courageously at a time when they could not know whether they were committing future political suicide. In other words, Obama and Kucinich spoke out when it counted.

Contrast Obama's and Kucinich's stand with Hillary's careful tacking in the winds of political expedience and you will know the reason I no longer consider myself a strict party-line Democrat. (I've been one since Reagan I in 1980, btw, but enough is enough. Of course, living in Jane "War Pig" Harman's congressional district and being represented in the Senate by Dianne "I'm OK with Torutre if yYou're OK with Torture" Feinstein has also led to my disenchantment. It's not all Hillary, but she's definitely a major contributor.)

[frylock]

69. the next clinton bumpersticker i see will be the first

[mtnsnake]

74. and the only Edwards bumper sticker your EVER gonna see is "Kerry-Edwards 2004" (Snicker)

[dugggy]

79. ROFL n/t

[Tellurian]

109. hahaha! True enough..

The more I hear about John Edwards, the more I think it was a good thing he didn't make it into the White House last trip around! Someone up there liked us enough to forestall another 16 yr. mistake.

GO HILLARY!

[William769]

70. Tell it like it is brother!

[FreeState]

75. Agree 100% - I am not a Hillary fan but I was rooting for her

Agree 100% - I am not a Hillary fan but I was rooting for her because both Obama and Edwards have pissed me off so much lately I could not stand it any more. Clinton more than held her own IMO - she stood out and above Obama & Edwards.

Im still voting for Kucinich - but if it looks like Obama has a chance to take it I will vote for Hillary (this is a complete 180% turn for me in the last month and a half.) Im starting to become a "anyone but Obama or Edwards" advocate and that is not what I even expected LOL.

[Andromeda]

102. Thank you, FreeState...

You have a lot of class which is more than I can say for some of the idiots that post at DU.

Even though I'm voting for Hillary, I like Dennis and I think he did a great job in the debate. He came up with some of the best lines. At least Dennis is consistant and stands up for what he believes in.

I don't know if anybody noticed but Dennis stuck up for Hillary after one of the barbs aimed at her by Obama or Edwards---can't remember which one.

If I can get the transcript I'll post it.

[asdjrocky]

80. Booers, Ringers and Plants.... Oh my.

Leanr the truth.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Burson-Marsteller

[asdjrocky]

82. oops....

Learn the truth:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Burson-Marsteller

[GOPBasher]

83. I like Hillary, but I look at polls and determine that she has the least chance of winning

the general election. Her unfavorables -- the numbers least likely to change -- are the highest. Also, in trial heats, she never does quite as well as Obama and Edwards. Sorry.

[calteacherguy]

85. Because Nevada isn't Iowa. nt

[mtnsnake]

89. Let me guess. You teach geography?

:hi:

[Cameron27]

97. !

:rofl:

[calteacherguy]

99. That's how people often react...

When they know what someone said is true, but don't want to acknowledge the truth of it.

:-)

[AntiFascist]

91. While Edwards was getting booed he also received cheers and applause....

I think CNN had strategically placed microphones/sound mixing.

[Lord Helmet]

93. Because the people boo'ing were idiots?

[last_texas_dem]

94. I doubt it

I live in the real world, at least if Texas can be considered to be part of the "real world", and most of the comments I've heard from people when Clinton's name is brought up are substantially worse than the comparably tame things the "Clinton-haters" on DU say about her. You're right in that Clinton is more popular among Democrats outside of DU than on here, but I don't think that popularity among partisan Democrats translates to her being a popular political figure across-the-board.

[laureloak]

95. NAFTA, NAFTA, NAFTA! Hell the booers were planted by HC!

How stupid do you think we are?

[NobleCynic]

98. If you think Hillary isn't seen as a bogeyman, you don't know Nevada

The state is so misogynistic that it elected Jim Gibbons, one of the most gaffe prone Republicans I have ever seen, over Dina Titus. Aye, it was close, but this state still has a fairly rural attitude.

[Guaranteed]

100. Sen. Clinton hasn't done a single positive thing for this country. Ever.

Despite having every opportunity.

[JDPriestly]

101. See the movie Our Brand in Crisis then read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine.

You will see what Hillary is really about. Then you can make up your mind -- pro or con.

[IndianaGreen]

105. Romney will beat Hillary in the general election

and many of us that don't live in the Beltway, and are not mesmerized by the Clinton propaganda machine, are terrified of 4 more years of GOP rule. Hillary will not win the election because of her and her husband's baggage.

[JI7]

106. Romney will LOSE against any of the Democrats

same goes for Giuliani.

[IndianaGreen]

107. I repeat, Romney will beat Hillary

Hillary is unelectable. People will not flock to the polls to vote for her.

[Perry Logan]

111. Come on, man. At least pretend to have some pride...

A lot of people at DU seem to think Republicans are ten feet tall. The truth is, even a dog could beat them in 2008.

[Forkboy]

116. We thought that in '04, too.

Never underestimate your opponents.
Never overestimate your own strength.

Basic principles that we would be wise to follow.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

112. Because she's a "girl" who's been "piled on" by all "the boys" in the "all men's club"?

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