We done good tonight, but over at Rudy's house...

[saltpoint]

...the mood was quite a bit more somber.

Sullen, even.

"America's Mayor" is likely having a bad day. It's been a week of more whispered scandal from early days. His pal Bernie Kerik is in the headlines and that's not a good thing. He can't bother to compete in Iowa because he's getting whomped there by Romney and now also by Huckabee and is in danger of falling into 4th place with the caucuses just a few weeks away..

And now there's the Democrats on tv tonight from Nevada, and Rudy sits in his chair watching, realizing that all his tough-guy strong-arming 9/11 bravado isn't going to be enough when he has to stand on a debate stage some night in September or October of next year against any one of these people.

John Edwards is so earnest and prepared on the issues that Rudy's big-city mayor profile will shrink to nothing. Rudy can't imagine how you get on top of issues like that.

Joe Biden knows the Constitution AND the world map.

Bill Richardson has been all over the world and is an energy expert to boot.

Obama has the rare gift of language where Rudy is often cement-tongued over the most ordinary subjects.

And the Clinton woman. She would have torn him limb from limb in that Senate race and dammit, here she is again ready to do it on a national scale. He's even behind her in the New Jersey polling for god's sake.

So it's a gloomy, irritable mayor who sits tonight watching our Democrats.

He knows he's outmatched.

[JeffR]

1. If no one were allowed to post here without you vetting it first

DU would be a much more enjoyable read. Thanks for being the voice of reason, clear perception and good humor. You're a treasure, sir.

[saltpoint]

3. JeffR, there's some days I couldn't find the left side of my own ass with

a three way mirror.

'Would love to take your generous compliment but it belongs to you and many other DUers as well.

The feathers do fly here in primary season, but I've been the chief beneficiary of very enjoyable cyber-company and the many cyber-pals that come with a deep blue blog like that.

Awfully nice to run into you around these boards as usual.

[JeffR]

7. The wisest among us refuse to make their wisdom a credential.

I just came up with that, but I think it's pretty succinct. Thanks, OC.

[saltpoint]

8. -- --

:hug: :yourock: :hi:

[monmouth]

2. Poor Roody may be assigned to the couch for his nights rest. Ms.

Joodi can't be too pleased with this turn of events. I love your posts, thought Joe Biden was awesome tonight and I pity poor Rudy if he ever, ever has to debate him. Aren't we having fun though????

[saltpoint]

4. Very good point on Ms. Joodi. It's kind of difficult to obtain her

perspective on events since she's usually out torturing dogs.

Nevertheless, she likely pops in every now and then to see how many more points her husband has fallen in recent polling.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. America's Mayor...

My ass. :eyes:

[Auntie Bush]

6. I'll bet he's wishing someone would waterboard that whole bunch and

wash them away. Yeah, it must be tough being Rudy tonight.

Now that I think of it...it must be tough to be any Republican or one of their supporters.

[monmouth]

9. If I'm rested and coffeed up in the a.m. I think I'll stroll through

"you know where" and get a sense of their feelings on the debate. Hahaha, who am I kidding, I may have to have a bloody mary for that ordeal...

[Auntie Bush]

14. I wish you would. I have often wondered what they have to say and think.

Never mind, they don't think. Although I wonder what they have to say about Rudy and Bernie?

[monmouth]

15. Very little to nothing, they discourage posts re Rudy. He's not really

"one of them."....lol

[Auntie Bush]

25. Who is? Who they rooting for? Huckabee?

Thanks for looking. Did you have to take a shower after swimming in all that swill?

[saltpoint]

10. Hi, Auntie Bush. Yes. Our stage features some all-star talent while

the red team has fielded has-beens and creepos.

[bleever]

11. What a great field of candidates we have.

I'm so impressed.

Rudy can streak around with "9/11" tattooed on his ass all he wants, he can't hold a candle to any one of them.

[rhiannon55]

12. When any one of them speaks

I think okay that's it! I know who I'm voting for. But then another one says a brilliant and very cool thing that makes me think okay that's it! I know who I'm voting for. And I'm nowhere closer to knowing who I'm voting for. :silly:

But what a plethora of great choices! :patriot:

[saltpoint]

13. Agree. It's a terrific problem to have trying to choose among several

good choices.

Republican primary voters are of two schools this fall: those who are weeping in despair over their slate of candidates since their candidates are all creeps, crooks, and dunderheads, and those who are sketching plans to blow their brains out.

We're gonna give the Republicans the whuppin' they've got comin' in 2008.

[mzmolly]

16. Very well said!

:toast:

[saltpoint]

17. Hey there mzmolly. Too much time in between opportunities to say

hello to you.

Also I greatly prefer the Democrat in your avatar field to the incumbent.

[mzmolly]

26. I'm trying to "peek" in more often as of late.

:hi:

I also prefer the man in your Avatar to his primary foes, not to mention to :scared: alternative to any of our candidates.

[mzmolly]

27. "...not to mention THE alternative to any of our candidates."

Please pardon my error in the original reply. ;)

[saltpoint]

30. No harm, no foul. I'm with you all the way. The GOP pack is a frightening

bunch of yahoos, creeps, crooks, and otherwise unsavory beast-demon-dullard hybrids.

They should really keep a tighter quality control program in place in those Republican laboratories...

Maybe something Ralph Nader could work on... give ol' Ralph something to do. An idel mind is the devil's playground.

[mzmolly]

32. "Maybe something Ralph Nader could work on... "

:rofl: Now THAT is a good use for Mr. Nader's time!

[Blue_In_AK]

18. Right on, OC

I said that very thing to my husband tonight -- even my least favorite is better than any Republican candidate. It must be depressing for them.

[saltpoint]

19. There you are, Blue_In_AK. Howdy!

The Republicans are in a bit of a mess right now -- their nomination race is like a dozen or so raggedy Andys in the spin cycle. A frightening bunch. Not even Republicans like them.

Hope you're doing well and that your state is about to send us a lot more Democrats to the 110th Congress.

[CitizenLeft]

20. ain't it the truth?

He's a petulant mean-spirited megalomaniac who will implode in a debate. It's going to be interesting to watch.

And I hope to God I never have to eat those words.

[saltpoint]

21. My guess is your intincts are exactly right.

And I'm REAL comfortable with your description of Giuliani.

[PatSeg]

22. Okay, I'm picturing Rudy holding his breath during the entire

debate and then letting it out once he realized that Biden wasn't going to knock the crap out of him again!!!

[saltpoint]

23. Yes. Rudy has reason to fear Biden. He has reasons aplenty to fear a Biden

candidacy.

Joe's quicker on his feet, and from all the available evidence, a much more mature human adult than playground bully Rudy Giuliani.

Also, Biden's wife doesn't torture dogs.

[PatSeg]

24. Poor fella

If he wasn't such an asshole, I'd almost feel sorry for him.

[saltpoint]

28. I'd laugh at that line, Pat, but assholes the world over would kill me for

the comparison to Rudy!

[Life Long Dem]

29. But hold on a minute!

We cannot, I repeat, "we cannot" have any mudslinging or attacks. PLEASE for the sake of Rudy we cannot have a repeat of 4 years ago.
:sarcasm:

[Honeycombe8]

31. Ghouliani knows no such thing. The hallmark of someone running for President...

is EGO. And that applies ESPECIALLY to Ghouliani. Each of the leading candidates believes he/she is IT! If they didn't truly believe that, they wouldn't have the right stuff to run for President.

Believe you me, the LAST thing Ghouliani thinks is that someone else is better than he is.