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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:01 PM
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I was talking to a "little birdie" over the weekend about New Hampshire and Iowa..
this little birdie is quite connected to those on the ground there, and it sounds like Huckabee could be a real dark horse among the repubs. He's the one to watch and be wary of IMO.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:02 PM
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1. He is
he's a Baptist minister with strong fundamentalist connections. He's big on wellness in health care, too.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:04 PM
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2. I'm hearing the same thing. The Republican political junkies in Iowa keep saying that Huckabible has
a lock on second place already and is gaining on Romney (but won't quite catch Romney).

I hear similar talk about Paul in New Hampshire.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:05 PM
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3. That's what I think, too
Somebody here bet me five bucks I would turn out to have been wrong.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:05 PM
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4. It kind of makes sense because of the strong Christian Right base. It seems
he'd represent their views more closely than any of the other candidates.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:17 PM
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13. But the 'pukes don't want to run him because they don't want the loss pinned on the religious right
That was the analysis I heard on public radio this morning. Kind of nice to hear the gops lose the courage of their convictions. They must know deep down inside that their most dedicated politicians are perceived as a-holes.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:22 PM
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18. Not at all. The Repubs don't like Huckabible because Club for Growth says he's liberal on economic
issues.

Huckabible is the anti-Ghouliani: he's moderate on the war and economic issues but he's a crazy extremist on social issues whereas Ghouliani is moderate on social issues but he's a crazy extremist on the war and economic issues.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:36 PM
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25. Yes, "Huckabible" speaks about the "hollowing out of America's economy"
That's a dangerous combination. I call it "populism" in the mode of William Jennings Bryan.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:06 PM
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5. I've been saying that for a while.
He's right up their ally.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:07 PM
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6. If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around to hear it
does it make a sound?

I've been watching Huckabee for months now, I think he is a real threat - aside from the fact that he is one of the 3 bozos who admitted to believing in Creationism over Evolution.

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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:10 PM
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7. Hey! That's my bird!
Watch out, the little bastard lies, too! LOL

I like Huckabee better than most of the repube candidates, mainly because he is believable. But if this bird says he is a darkhorse, beware! Birds of a feather........
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:15 PM
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9. He is surprisingly popular with some Democrats up there as well..
so I've heard tell. Many have indicated him their third choice among all candidates. Apparently he actually has a real health care plan...:shrug:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:18 PM
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15. His health care plan is "prevention"--healthy habits. I'm not kidding.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:20 PM
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17. But, that will play well with the repubbie base..
I can't for the life of me figure out why it would appeal to Dems, but this is New Hampshire we're talking about. I'll have to look into this so-called health care plan for myself. I was skeptical when he was telling me this. These were union members he was talking about though. I guess the guy can talk a good game.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:23 PM
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19. Hey - if he helps me loose weight I just might vote for him myself
(kiddin?)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:36 PM
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26. LOL! Although he is rumored to have actually had gastric bypass done, but won't admit it.
So his healthy habits did not even help him!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:17 PM
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12. Are you aware that he's batshit crazy? That he believes he should
be President because he is a minister and has a theology degree, so that he can fight the Mooslims with Christianity?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:18 PM
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16. Grueliani just stole his thunder..
he and Pat Buchanan have formed a Christian jihad together. That will actually appeal to a good majority of the repub voters.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:12 PM
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8. Huckabee is the Kuchinich of the right. He
has all the correct positions on all of the issues that are important to the far right. He's a purist, and so will have very little to no chance of getting the nomination, but he speaks well and has a pleasant personality.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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11. This person seemed to think he had a good chance..
that he will do well in both New Hampshire and Iowa, causing people to give him a second look.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:40 PM
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28. They are right, he will probably do well in both states,
maybe coming in third or even second in the two primaries, but I don't think he has the financing or support for the long haul. Super Tuesday comes up quickly and even if he does unexpectedly well he won't have the staying power to go all the way to the nomination, at least that's my take.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:53 PM
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30. Yep, it all comes down to the money...
we'll see how fickle the repub supporters are very soon I think.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:24 PM
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20. Not at all. Kucinich is a good solid liberal on all issues. Huckabible pisses of Club for Growth and
NeoCons because he's moderate on the war and economic issues even though he's a crazy extremist on social issues.

In contrast, Ghouliani is the exact opposite: moderate on social issues but he's a crazy extremist on the war and economic issues.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:25 PM
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21. Maybe they'll hook up and form a ticket?
:scared:
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:30 PM
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24. The third party ticket that would send chills down the Repub's back: Paul/Huckabible '08
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:37 PM
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27. He's not moderate on the war. I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:45 PM
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29. You're right, Huckabee is moderate on the war, but
you'd be surprised haw many good conservatives have had it with the war and are ready to back out slowly. His moderate postiion on economic issues also appeals to a broad swath of moderately conservative Republicans tired of Bush's extremist economic views. Giuliani is just the opposite but still seems to hold the lead for the nomination.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 04:12 PM
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33. Bush doesn't have "extremist" economic views--he's the most liberal
spender we've had in the White House--he's gone crazy with the checkbook, hasn't vetoed a damn thing until this year. The GOPers are PISSED at him for his fiscal irresponsibility, and they see Huckabee as more of the same--there's even a video up on You-Tube showing Huckabee asking his state legislature for a new tax or tax hike on something, ANYTHING. Not even a Dem would be that politically careless in terms of taxes. To clarify: Huck is NOT moderate on the war, he's a religious wack-job who sees it as a vital "theologic" war between Christians and Muslims--fucking scary.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:16 PM
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10. Would love that. Read this:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:17 PM
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14. I did see your previous posts about Huckabee's skeletons..
it will be interesting to see how all of this plays out, considering not of the repub candidates are 100% clean by any stretch of the imagination.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:27 PM
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22. I agree with your little birdie!
He's gonna surprise quite a few on Jan. 3rd.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:28 PM
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23. I'm here and Huckabee is more than a dark horse
He's everywhere and people are just drooling over him.

Lucky me. I may get to live in a Theocracy after all.

Hallelujah, Praise the Lord.

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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:58 PM
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31. I hope Huckabee wins
you honestly think America would vote for this guy when we're in the middle of two wars? He's Jimmy Carter redux but real looney. Clinton would win easily.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 03:59 PM
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32. I think a lot of conservatives would support Huckabee
but don't because they think he doesn't have a good chance to win the nomination and would rather support someone with a bigger bankroll and more media coverage. Same with Kuchinich, a lot more liberals would support him but don't because they think he has little chance to win the nomination, so support someone else.
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