Hillary maintains STRONG *23* pt lead in spite of attacks..

[Tellurian]

Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll:

11/12/07

Clinton..43%


Obama....20%


Edwards..16%


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

[Tellurian]

1. Edwards and Obama, still don't get it!

When you're in a hole, the first thing you do is STOP digging!

They have yet to learn a simple Law of Physics..

[rodeodance]

2. gawds. I do wish Edwards could make some headway. We need his voice

[rodeodance]

3. ITS back to where it was Nov 1

11/01/07
43%
20%
12%
11/01/07

[Cameron27]

4. It looks like she's weathering the onslaught pretty well

despite Chris Matthews' anti-Clinton propoganda machine, but I think it's time for her to take the gloves off.

[Tellurian]

5. Yes, Hillary has been faithfully attacking the Republican regime..NOT fellow Dems..

It might be time for her to begin attacking the MSM alerting the public to their unfair and unbalanced attacks against Dems!

[Cameron27]

8. The problem with that

is the media won't air any rebuttals without twisting and spinning them. I've just about had it with MSNBC, where Russert and Matthews begin with a false premise, and everyone but KO continues to spread it.

I'm glad I'm not her campaign manager, because I wouldn't know how the hell to advise her.

[Tellurian]

12. It begins with her new site at Hillaryhub... a rapid response fact checker..

The internet has become a formidable antidote for countering RW spin. When the 'word' becomes common knowledge, it will be the perfect vehicle to counter the blogasphere's want to continue promoting MSNBC's media spin..

[Cameron27]

13. I agree.

That's a great start.

[Tellurian]

17. Everyone is welcome to check in often at hillaryhub.com

there is also an ongoing real time blog available if you have any questions..

thanks seasonedblue, for your support.

[Cameron27]

20. That's a good idea, thanks.

I've been using Taylor Marsh as a great factcheck source, but I'll check out Hillaryhub.

[Tellurian]

33. Taylor Marsh has been a phenomenal help debunking the LIES!

[liberalnurse]

15. It is a gang assult

on Senator Clinton. I don't see or ever hear OBama and Edwards attack each other or Dodd,Biden or Richardson ....all Clinton.

[Tellurian]

18. Must be the "Blame Clinton"virus surfacing again, after a seven year hiatus..

[Apollo11]

21. Obama has attacked Edwards repeatedly

Obama has said that Edwards switched from being a moderate up until 2005, to being a populist in 2007.

He also criticized Edwards for co-sponsoring the resolution authorizing military action against Iraq.

I guess both of these comments would fit the definition of "attack" used by Hillary's supporters.

[Cameron27]

24. I was happy to see Obama go after Edwards,

I hope he tries to take him out completely.

[Apollo11]

23. Edwards has also attacked Obama

Edwards has said that of the top 3 candidates in the field, he is the only one who can campaign in red states.

This implies that Obama is not able to reach voters in red states. Maybe because he's black? :eyes:

[Tellurian]

34. Funny, though- Edwards is zilch in NC his home state!

[ISUGRADIA]

42. Please

candidates go after the front runner, that's the way politics work (See Dean 2004, Mondale 1984, Muskie 1972 for examples). Apparently Hillary supporters want a special dispensation for her.

[flvegan]

6. "Each update includes approximately 750 Likely Democratic Primary Voters"

Wow, what a huge chunk of data that is.

[bagrman]

7. Fresh from The Nation. I guess it's all in who you ask.

I'm not the most politically savvy person out there, and I don't know which way The Nation leans, from their radio commercials it's left, from their articles they don't let anyone off the hook. Anyway, it doesn't look like your girl ranks that well with their readers.



FRom The Nation online magazine.
Poll | posted November 12, 2007 (web only)
If the Democratic presidential primary were held today in your state, who would get your vote?

Joseph Biden
(449) 2%

Hillary Clinton
(748) 4%

John Edwards
(1817) 10%

Christopher Dodd
(208) 1%

Mike Gravel
(2288) 13%

Dennis Kucinich
(5715) 33%

Barack Obama
(4618) 27%

Bill Richardson
(1198) 7%

[Tellurian]

9. Kucinich being the "Nation's" front runner should alert you to something..no?

The Nation publication is not reflective of the average voter's preferences.

[Skip Intro]

10. an unscientific online poll - there have been many here in GDP - fun but meaningless n/t

[bagrman]

16. And what makes one more accurate then another.

One takes a poll from people that are actively reading political news, the other calls people in a certain zip code at random. Now the people online could vote twice and the zip code could be in a predominately ethnic or poor neighborhood. So which one is fair and accurate.

IT's odd that the non mainstream media polls always point away from Clinton.


Latr
Chris

[Seabiscuit]

29. Precisely. All the polls are meaningless. And since the MSM keeps treating this like a horse race

and focuses almost exclusively on polls, everything the MSM says about it is also meaningless.

You can take that to the bank.

[SIMPLYB1980]

11. Off to the Greatest with you.

K&R

[Tellurian]

14. And a "Greatest" Day wish for you too!

Thanks ALL... for the "R's"..

[zulchzulu]

19. President Dean remembers polls like this

Oh wait...national polls...

December 10, 2003 Among Democratic voters, Dean leads with 22 percent, followed by Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman with 13 percent and former Gen. Wesley Clark with 12 percent. Clark led the pack with 17 percent in an October 29 poll by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University, when Dean had 13 percent.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=391

[mtnsnake]

26. Oh if only Dean didn't have that wierd miracle happen in Iowa he'd be on his way to his 2nd term

I still can't believe it wasn't him vs Bush in 2004. He would've smoked that imbecile.

[JohnnyLib2]

30. If it happens again, front-runner bombing out now-

how will those votes be re-distributed? Who will be the most likely nominee? That's a big concern. Dean's fall begat Kerry/Edwards begat GWB2.

[CyberPieHole]

46. Yeah, where you wanna be is on the bottom. Gravel's sitting pretty.

He's got it in the bag.:silly:

[bagrman]

22. Polls are every where.

CLOUT! Straw Poll
By Richard Greene on October 31, 2007 - 1:44pm

While the 8 Democratic candidates were debating last night we decided to take a straw poll. Even though CLOUT! is now live in NY City on WWRL 1600AM, the state's junior Senator, the leading candidate, did not fare well.

Not at all.

For 2 hours, from 8 - 10 pm Eastern, we took votes by phone and email. Here are the results:

KUCINICH: 40%
EDWARDS 33%
OBAMA 10%
CLINTON 6%
RICHARDSON 3%
(AL GORE) 3% (Not officially in poll. Many wanted him but we took their 2nd choice, if given)
(RON PAUL) 3% (Not officially in poll)
DODD 1%
BIDEN: 0%
GRAVEL: 0%

[Tellurian]

35. So, you're telling us you are a hard Left Winger?

Extremes never win elections. That is a given. Campaign from the middle than draw Left after the election!

[bagrman]

40. I don't know what would indicate that.

[Tellurian]

41. The capital "L" on your tent perhaps..

[bagrman]

43. Not following you thought pattern, not being a Clinton fan makes me hard left?

[Tellurian]

47. Following your thought patterns designates "you" a Lefty!

you've selectively chosen 2 polls showing LEFTY Dennis Kucinich with the highest percentage of support.

When the OP's poll is an acceptable balanced designate for the average moderate voters and one we've been using since the beginning of the race.

[bagrman]

48. Couldn't really say that my intention was to pick just a "lefty" poll.

And I thought that your main contention was she was the shoe-in for the "Lefty" nomination. So you wouldn't the Lefty opinion?

[Basileus Basileon]

44. Yeah, see, that's a worthless straw poll. Not a real poll. nt

[rAVES]

25. Another way of looking at it: inspite of being a TERRIBLE Candidate

[bagrman]

31. 1 poll showed Clinton in a dead heat with all the repubs.

The problem with that is the way that elections can be manipulated she would get Gored more easily.

The other candidates poll much more favorably then she does, in order to get more of the cross over votes.

With the MSM polls the only ones getting news coverage, it will come as no surprise when the front runner they choose wins by their projected percentage. Don't think for a moment they would hesitate to Gore the primaries just like the general election.

Latr

[mtnsnake]

27. Wow, it seems she is virtually untouchable at this point. Unless she lets out a big cackle

in Iowa that the media can blow up ten times in volume to bring her down, it almost looks like the Goddess of Peace might have this all wrapped up, although Obama is pretty hot, too. Don't count out Kucinich yet, though, who might shock everyone before this is over. Dennis is the most underappreciated Democratic candidate ever, but more and more people are catching on to his sincerity. Maybe Hillary or Obama would consider him for their VP choice?

[Tellurian]

36. If Kooch was a little bit taller maybe, he would be a VP lock..

:hi:

[mtnsnake]

38. His height would be perfect for her. He's the only one she'd still be taller than!

:hi:

[Tellurian]

39. Silly me, I forgot to add the extra inches for her crown.. :)

[flordehinojos]

28. Ol' Pops, GHWB, is working hard at having Hillary's lead chiseled away.

What her distaste for her is, i don't know.
Perhaps that she is a Clinton, and that even while some think of her in a negative way, she has more approval and following that any of the Bush clan.
Perhaps just the fact that she is a woman. He has promised to give her hell, just like he promised to kick Geraldine Ferraro's *ss when she ran for VP with Mondale.

Maybe he doesn't like women and would feel the same way about any woman on the front spot in the run for the white house... he certainly would abhor anyone who has greater approval and support than any of those dawgonned bushes who push themselves into every spot, even if they have to steal it.

[Seabiscuit]

32. I have a sneaking feeling that if I were married to Babs I wouldn't like women either. :)

[Tellurian]

37. good point.. The beautiful mind wife..

never learned, "beauty is as beauty does".. axiom.

[CyberPieHole]

45. I guess saying her campaign was "imploding" was wrong?

Now where could I have read such a thing? A freeper site? No, actually, I think I read a thread on that ridiculous subject right here on DU.

K&R