Kucinich blasts Bush

[babylonsister]

http://media.www.dailyiowan.com/media/storage/paper599/news/2007/11/13/Metro/Kucinich.Blasts.Bush-3096673.shtml

Kucinich blasts Bush
Dean Treftz - The Daily Iowan
Issue date: 11/13/07 Section: Metro


CEDAR RAPIDS - Democratic presidential-nomination hopeful and Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich railed against President Bush's administration and an overall mindset promoting war on Monday at the Cedar Rapids Islamic Center.

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"He had a very brave opinion, because it's very hard to speak in the way he's speaking and win elections," Cedar Rapids resident Ayman Amer said. "Very hard, very brave."

Amer said he likes Kucinich but will probably caucus for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., because he has a better shot at winning.

Hassan Igram, the center's director, also approved of Kucinich's speech, adding that he believed other candidates would like to say the same things but couldn't.

The center has hosted other presidential candidates over the years, including Al Gore, Bill Bradley, and John Kerry, all Democrats.

"As Muslims, we are conservatives," Igram said. "But it depends on how you define conservative."

[MuseRider]

1. Hmmm

"Hassan Igram, the center's director, also approved of Kucinich's speech, adding that he believed other candidates would like to say the same things but couldn't."

COULDN'T? Or is that wouldn't?

Why couldn't they? There is rarely a case so blatant as this one. How could they not? They are in opposition aren't they?

What an odd statement.

[babylonsister]

2. They 'couldn't' because no one wants to invite criticism, most

everyone is walking on eggs.

[MuseRider]

3. I found this statement odd too.

"He had a very brave opinion, because it's very hard to speak in the way he's speaking and win elections," Cedar Rapids resident Ayman Amer said. "Very hard, very brave."

I know it is just one person commenting but this just blows my mind. How is it difficult to win elections by being the opposite of your opponent?

[babylonsister]

4. I think he's brave, too, for speaking the truth when all he gets is

criticism for it. Look what happened on the House floor when he brought up impeachment. Many people don't seem to respect him when they should, act very condescending, and that attitude gets 'bought' by others.
I and many others believe in his platform the most, I don't think we're in the minority, but realistically, look at his chances of winning this.

[DCKit]

5. Yeah, but the impeachment debacle was a hoot to watch. I've never seen a clusterfuck like that. nt

[MuseRider]

9. Realistic or not

he has my support. Reality has never been my thing ;).

Thanks for posting this. It was a very shallow article but it does state how he stands on some things.

[Prophet 451]

12. Truth hurts

Cliche, I know but true. These days, telling the electorate the truth is the primary way to lose an election. I imagine that's why everyone except Kooch is talking in vague banalities with no real substance, running on personality instead of policy.

[MuseRider]

13. The truth

that the truth is a losing prospect saddens me. I find nothing redeeming in holding it back just to win.

[Prophet 451]

14. Nor I

but it frightens people. They'd rather have comforting fairy tales to uncomfortable truth.

[riqster]

6. What bugs me about the story is how little space his actual comments got

...straight to the horse race stuff. Almost nothing relating to the headline.

Here are the teeny tiny shreds of DK's actual comments:

On Iran:
"Even planning for this war is a war crime. Iran is not a threat to us."

On how to take the money from war and revitalize the economy: he proposed public works projects, like rail transit: "They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. People who make submarines could make transit cars."

I really wish the media would focus on passing along what candidates actually say, instead of focusing on 'analysis'.

[babylonsister]

7. I agree, and I could have snipped that differently, but wanted to

emphasize the admiration he received.

[riqster]

10. Oh, I was not criticizing you

...it was the paper, and that overall media tendency that it exemplifies, that honked me off.

[BigDDem]

8. Who?

[John Q. Citizen]

11. People have been led to "fill in the blanks in there own heads." The argument that

politicians actually believe something other than what they say and how they vote is bullshit.

These folks though are just like the majority of voters. They attribute there hopes and dreams to people who do not in anyway share their hopes and dreams.

On the left, we have repeatedly asked "How can lower income folks vote Republican when their agenda is to screw lower income folks? Why are they so ignorant that they don't vote their own self interest?

Well we do exactly the same thing, folks. We constantly attribute fantasy reasons to those we wish actually cared to represent our goals, dreams and aspirations. Here's a classic example of self delusion, of magical fantasy thinking:

Hassan Igram, the center's director, also approved of Kucinich's speech, adding that he believed other candidates would like to say the same things but couldn't.

Logically Hassan Igram's statement makes no sense at all.

1. Anyone can say anything they want.
2. If they really would like to say it, but "can't" because they lack the political courage, then why the hell would you want to vote for a political coward? Why reward dishonesty. If they honestly believe something else than they are saying, then they are basically being dishonest not to level with you.


It's all "buy Coca Cola, because it will help you get laid."

Well, people, wake up. Coca cola has nothing to do with sex. It's sugar, flavoring, water and coloring. Only in your fantasy mind is it sex.

What you see is what you get, but for some reason many believe that what you see isn't what you'll get.

And I don't get it.