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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 07:51 PM
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Obama Supporters need to check out his Economic Advisor, Austan Goolsbee...
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 08:06 PM by KoKo01
because this DU'er saw him on C-Span "Economic Forum" where he seemed "clueless" and tonight on CNBC Business Channel ...Larry Kudlow was saying he was the "New Generation with New Ideas." It seems not only Larry (Supply Side/Reagonite) Kudlow LOVES AUSTIN...but so does Conservative Columnist, George Will."

If you don't believe me about Austan Goolsbee...then just do a Google Search on him. University of Chicago might ring some bells amongst long time DU'ers.

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Sure Obama's economic adviser is ... sensible...Sure, he's a Democrat but, with all that Entails....but, Austan Goolsbee is also nuanced and reasonable.

by George Will

Published: October 04, 2007

CHICAGO - In his curriculum vitae, Austan Goolsbee lists as his "other interests" -- other than teaching at the University of Chicago -- two activities: triathlons and improv comedy. Evidently he is a masochist with a sense of humor, so he is suited to participate in presidential politics, which he is doing as an adviser to Barack Obama.

Before they met in person, Obama, running for the Senate in 2004, asked Goolsbee a perplexing question. Obama's opponent, Alan Keyes, an African-American imported from Maryland by Illinois' shambolic Republican Party, had been asked whether he believed in reparations for slavery. Keyes said perhaps America could do what Rome did -- exempt descendents of former slaves from taxes for two generations. Obama asked Goolsbee how much that might cost. Goolsbee's two answers were: Hard to say. And: Trillions.

Goolsbee graduated from Yale and earned his doctorate from MIT before coming to the University of Chicago's business school, which gave to public life a giant of conservatism, George Shultz. The university's economics department has been adorned by the likes of Milton Friedman, George Stigler and Gary Becker, each a Nobel laureate, each a conservative by virtue of his inclination to expect more utility from markets than from government interventions therein.

Is Goolsbee dismayed about widening income inequality? Yes, but with a nuanced understanding. The stagnation of middle- and working-class incomes, and the anxiety this has generated, is, he says, a most pressing problem, but policymakers must be mindful about trying to address its root cause, which Goolsbee says is "radically increased returns to skill."

In 1980, people with college degrees made on average 30 percent more than those with only high school diplomas. That disparity has widened to 70 percent. In the same year, the average earnings of people with advanced degrees were 50 percent more than those with only high school diplomas; today it is more than 100 percent.

The market is shouting, "Stay in school!" and Goolsbee's conservative colleagues at Chicago say a high tax rate on high earners is "a tax on going to college." Conservatives say: Don't tax something unless you are willing to have less of it. But Goolsbee says: Conservatives often exaggerate the behavioral response to increased tax rates. The solution is to invest more in education, which will raise wages, reduce inequality and move toward equilibrium. The GI bill was, he says, so prolific in stimulating investment in "human capital" -- particularly, college education -- that for a while the return on it went down relative to high school.

"Globalization" means free trade and various deregulations that supposedly put downward pressure on American wages because of imports from low-wage countries. Goolsbee, however, says globalization is responsible for "a small fraction" of today's income disparities. He says "60 to 70 percent of the economy faces virtually no international competition." America's 18.5 million government employees have little to fear from free trade; neither do auto mechanics, dentists and many others.

Goolsbee's rough estimate is that technology -- meaning all that the phrase "information economy" denotes -- accounts for more than 80 percent of the increase in earnings disparities, whereas trade accounts for much less than 20 percent. This is something congressional Democrats need to hear from a Democratic economist as they resist trade agreements with South Korea and such minor economic powers as Peru, Panama and Colombia.

As regards China, Goolsbee -- who favors a tougher approach, especially through the World Trade Organization -- notes that all imports are only 16.7 percent of the U.S. economy and imports from China are a small portion of all imports. Those from China amount to 2.2 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product. Mexico, he says, is genuinely stressed by China, whose exported products "overlap" with nearly two-thirds of Mexico's. China's exports overlap with 5 percent to 10 percent of America's economy. Rising imports from China predominantly replace those from other lower-skilled countries. Were China to be pressured into revaluing its currency in isolation, Goolsbee says, America would not start making the kind of toys it has been importing from China -- America would import toys from Vietnam.

Economics is the only academic discipline that in recent decades has moved in the direction that America and much of the world has moved, to the right. Goolsbee no doubt has lots of dubious ideas -- he is, after all, a Democrat -- about how government can creatively fiddle with the market's allocation of wealth and opportunity. But he seems to be the sort of person -- amiable, empirical and reasonable -- you would want at the elbow of a Democratic president, if such there must be.

http://www.startribune.com/562/v-print/story/1463025.html
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:08 PM
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1. Kick...because I messed up my post... and had to edit. Hope folks will give another look...
Apologies...

Koko...
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:17 PM
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2. Let's see, a DUer saw him and thought he looked clueless
With that piercing analysis to ponder, one wonders how the guy racked up this resume:

B.A. summa cum laude (economics), Yale University, 1991; M.A. (economics), Yale University, 1991; Ph.D. (economics), Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1995. He was an Alfred Sloan Fellow (2000-02) and is a Fulbright scholar (2006-07).

Aside from teaching at the University of Chicago graduate business school (no, he's not in that bogey-man department of economics at the regular part of the university), he writes the monthly Economic Scene column for the New York Times, and won the 2006 Peter Lisagor Award for Exemplary Journalism for his writing at Slate.

The guy must be really clueless.

Although it might be somewhat more clueless to base any opinion of him on a nameless DUer (whose economic credentials we don't know) or the writings of George Will.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:22 PM
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3. Google Alan Greenspan and Hank Paulson's Credentials...
Edited on Mon Nov-12-07 08:23 PM by KoKo01
but to see him in PERSON discussing Obama's Economic Plans on C-Span's coverage of "Economic Forum" and tonight again on "Kudlow & Company" gave more insight into WHO HE IS...than his string of credentials.

You might be impressed with his credentials but we've had the Neo-Cons with Impeccable Credentials running Bush I and II's foreign policy! Would you say they've done a good job ...no matter how impressive the "paper stuff" is? :shrug:

The guy acts like an ass. That's my honest opinion. And, if George Will is on his side...then we better run for cover!
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:30 PM
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5. He at least seems to be open and transparent
From a recent NYT piece on all the candidates' (Rep. and Dem) economic advisers:

The senior advisers, with their prestige and stature, are the public faces of economic policy for the presidential candidates — Democrats and Republicans alike. But they are also on a leash. The paid staff members in each campaign have a lot to say, and considerable control.

Mr. Hindery, for example, postponed an interview until he had clearance from James Kvaal, policy director for the Edwards campaign. And Mr. Sperling, for all his political prominence, declined to be interviewed, even off the record, until he had clearance from Mrs. Clinton’s policy director, Neera Tanden. Later, Mr. Kvaal and Ms. Tanden called to go over positions.

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Among all the senior economic advisers in both parties, only Mr. Goolsbee, a relative newcomer to politics, spoke on the record and without advance clearance. Ask him how he got his position with Mr. Obama’s campaign, and he cites friends in common who steered the candidate and the economist toward each other at the University of Chicago, where both taught. Mr. Obama was running for the Senate at the time.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/business/08advisers.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:38 PM
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6. Edwards supporters should check out his economic adviser, Leo Hindery
As long as we're cherry-picking information. I'm not sure I'd trust this guy, a cable television magnate (who is now in "public service," having cashed out at $247 million) at all:

Leo Hindery Jr. has long been a legislative liaison for the cable industry on Capitol Hill. A former chairman of the National Cable Television Association, he was a strong proponent of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which deregulated much of the industry. In 1997 and 1998 he testified before Congress three times, arguing for less government regulation and relaxed oversight of industry mergers. It's an issue Hindery knows something about: He was president of telecommunications giant TCI when it merged with AT&T, and negotiated AT&T's acquisition of the MediaOne Group.

More recently, Hindery served a seven-month stint as chief executive Global Crossing, a fast-growing firm specializing in underseas cables and wireless communications. He stepped down to head the company's Internet division, Global Center, while it completed its sale to Exodus Communications.



Just saying.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:48 PM
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8. Hey...thanks for this post...I'm not an Edwards supporter and Hindrey was on sam Economics Panel
as Goolsbee was on C-Span Economics Forum. He was very quiet...didn't contribute much to the converstation so it was hard for this Voting Dem to get a read on what he was contributing to Edwards in his expertise. But, Goolsbee was very "open" and seemed ....well...concerning to this long time voting Dem.
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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:07 PM
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10. This same campaign is also backed by Donnie McLurkin nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:27 PM
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4. An article by Goolsbee -- he lauds Rubinomics/Clintonomics and balanced budgets

PPI | Policy Report | April 30, 2007
Why Deficits Still Matter
By Austan Goolsbee

Editor's Note: The full text of this policy report is available in Adobe PDF format, only. (Requires Adobe Acrobat Reader.)

Introduction

The United States has run massive budget deficits every year the Bush administration has been in office. The latest budget projections from the White House show annual deficits in the $250 billion range for the rest of the president's term, at which point nearly $3 trillion will have been added to the national debt. In fact, George W. Bush has presided over the biggest fiscal deterioration in American history -- a sorry legacy considering his predecessor left him a healthy budget surplus projected to be $5 trillion over 10 years.

This did not happen by accident. White House officials have repudiated the Clinton administration's view that fiscal responsibility lays the groundwork for sustained economic growth. Often identified with former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, this view held that by running massive deficits and borrowing heavily, the federal government drove up the cost of capital. By cutting the deficit, it could bring interest rates down and thereby stimulate new waves of private investment. The economic boom of the 1990s seemed to prove Rubinomics right.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:41 PM
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7. Thank You ...AND...from watching the Economic Forum and tonight on Kudlow & Co.
it was Clear that Goolsbee has Obama's ear on the trashing of Boomers for their Social Security. Goolsbee's feeling is that SS is dead and that the "Young People" want their money in "Choice" like...Stocks in their 401-K's. If what's going on in Wall St. in these times doesn't give "young DU'ers pause" on Goolsbee's thoughts about how to "Privatize SS" for the future...then I don't know WHAT will awaken them.

When Obama goes on the attack against "Hayden Democrats" and speaks to the New rather than the Old...it shows his lack of concern with HISTORY OF AMERICA... and like Bush before him (who never cracked a history book because Poppy, Grandpappy and Great Grandpappy" were in the "Arms Business" and in cooperation with the Nazi's and other "wars" where they made profit...Mr. Obama didn't grow UP in MAINLAND USA...he grew up in Hawaii (a find territory now a state) but his background is VERY DIFFERENT from most Americans. He sees himself as the new IMMIGRANT AMERICA...but in doing that he wants to get rid of SS and Social Systems that were put in place by "Old American Great Dem Presidents!"

This may not bother many of you who also see yourself as New Immigrants who feel confined by "Past American Culture" but to Ignore the Culture of the Country you Came to and not RESPECT what has gone before that was GOOD for THE PEOPLE is to not be aware of what can happen when one throws out EVERYTHING for an Unknown Policy...just because it's NEW and just because it Sounds Good because what we have in control of our "current government" is so dispicable one assumes the average American will want ANY CHANGE over REASONED CHANGE.

That's what I'm trying to say.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:07 PM
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11. Bull: Goolsbee totally opposes privatization--he was an advisor to KERRY
In fact, he was an author of the study that did most to bring down Bush's privatization scheme. And Obama is entirely opposed to privatization as well--the theory based on being from Hawaii is totally whack.

Please note, so that you can avoid making up things.

President Bush's push to create individual investment accounts in the Social Security system would hand financial services firms a windfall totaling $940 billion over 75 years, according to a University of Chicago study to be released today.

Sen. John F. Kerry plans to use the paper, by economist Austan Goolsbee, as he campaigns in Florida today, hoping to open a new line of attack against Bush. The Democratic presidential nominee is expected to say that Bush's Social Security plan is a sop to Wall Street donors, who are among the Bush campaign's biggest financial backers.

...
"This study makes it clear when you choose individual accounts, seniors get hurt, the economy gets hurt, and the only institutions that benefit are the financial institutions that get nearly a trillion dollars in additional revenues," Furman said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39923-2004Sep21.html

From Goolsbee's study:

Executive Summary
Creating individual accounts in the social security system would lead to a massive
increase in payments of financial fees to private financial management companies.
Under Plan II of the President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security (CSSS), the
net present value of such payments would be $940 billion.
These expenses amount to more than 25% of the existing deficit in social security over
the same period. Rather than using the money to close the social security gap, the plan
would transfer this money to private financial managers and mutual fund companies. If
the government were to offset the cost of these fees by raising the retirement age, the age
would need to rise by about 6 months – just to cover the administrative costs of the
individual accounts, not even the accounts themselves.
The fees would be the largest windfall gain in American financial history. The $940
billion payment to financial companies would be an increase more than 8 times larger
than the decrease in revenue from the 2000-2002 collapse of the bubble. The net present
value (NPV) of the fees amounts to about one-quarter of the NPV of the revenue of the
entire financial sector for the next 75 years.
For a worker at the average income level, the fees in privately managed accounts are
likely to reduce the ultimate retirement value of their individual accounts by 20 percent
for the intermediate case.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:F9TCdYjM-94J:faculty.chicagogsb.edu/austan.goolsbee/research/ssecfees.pdf+Goolsbee+Social+Security&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=safari
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 08:55 PM
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9. University of Chicago!!!!!!!!!!! BUSTED!!!!!!!!!K&R!
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:10 PM
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12. Yeah, I guess that makes Seymour Hersh, a U of C graduate ...
an aid to the Devil.

God, I am getting pretty tired of some of the sloganeering idiocy that flies around here lately.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 09:13 AM
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13. I didn't know Hersh was an economist?
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