The impossibility of real change?

[reprobate]

Edited title to reflect post.

OK, Nader was right about one thing.

There is ONLY ONE PARTY in this country. It is the party of the corporate contributors, and it's enforcement arm is the media.

They killed the campaign of the only candidate with any potential for changing the way america works politiacally. They did it by ridicule in the media. They did it by not taking the large mass of people who supported him seriously. And they did it intentionally.

Now Kerry seems to be the annointed one. And of course I'll support the nominee of the party in a ABB kind of way. But something in the back of my mind keeps saying that he is just another part of the establishment adn as such he will make no huge changes to the system. Oh, sure, like clinton he will make some 'feel good' shifts in the way we handle some things, but there will be no banning of campaign contributions. There will be no Fairness Doctrine reinstated. And there will be no removal of "corporate personhood".

These are the three things that are absolutely necessary in order that america be returned to the people. The main problem in my mind is the doctrine of "corporate personhood". If this could be rescinded, most of our other problems would fade away. Everything else hinges on this. But the corporations now have so much power that it will never happen as long as politicians must rely on corporate contributions to run for office.

That's why I say that Kerry cant make any meaningfull changes. He, like the rest of them, is dependant on corporate bribes.

To those who are hoping for change from within the party, there is a new think tank working for democrats. It's called the Center for American Progress. Sounds like a progressive group, right? But according to the Nation, it's just another DLC clone group. So once again we see the establishment setting the tone, and no changes will be made.

So what will happed if there are no changes to bring our gov't back to responsiveness to the people? Well, it sure seems like things will continue on the same lines that they have for the past four years. Passage of Patriot II, more of the tax burden falling on the middle class, more corporate control of gov't until main function of government will be to privatize every former gov't function until corporations are given more profits on the backs of the taxpayers.

In my opinion there can be only one outcome of this thought experiment, and that is a word we are hearing more of lately: revolution. And I think that it will start with individualized anger, or the applying of 'executive sanctions' to those CEOs who are most responsible for the fall of the USA, and it will spread from there.

*****A Note to Moderators and any MIBs monitoring ******
I am in no way advocating violence. I have seen too much of it to think that violence is a viable solution to anything. But lets face facts, violence has become the american way of problem solution.
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So please tell me I'm wrong. In this case I don't want to be right.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. O.K. You're wrong.

and you're welcome!

Note: John Kerry is a "think tank" in his own right. You will all be pleasantly surprised by what he accomplishes.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/100days/

[redqueen]

2. Kucinich's continued support is proof that change is possible

More people have to realize the futility of backing the status quo first, though.

[Mairead]

8. Right on, RQ. Kucinich's successes, small tho they be so far, testify

that change is not only possible, but there are actually people who've figured out what to do to get it. As Margaret Mead said, never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world, because that's the only way change ever happens.

And we is it, this trip.

[aquart]

3. "america be returned to the people"

When has America belonged to "the people"?

Get real.

Our financial institutions are on the brink of collapse. Either someone takes charge and DOES something, or it's another Great Depression until someone DOES do something.

Since the very rich could also be wiped out, we have a good chance that someone WILL do something.

Depends on whether we vote the bastards out in Congress, too, you know.

But the real difference is judges. Judges matter to "the people." Judges decide the details that really rule our lives. Do you believe Kerry will appoint the same judges as Bush? Take whatever time you need and think about your answer.

[Cocoa]

4. things changed when Bush took office

things will change when he's gone. The change won't be enough, but it will be real.

[Options Remain]

5. This president was never going to be more than damage control

no matter who it was. Even Dean and Kucinich would only do so much.

The real battle will be fought locally. As is being proven in boston and San Fran now.

TearForger

[redqueen]

6. gay marriage?

CEO's and top execs are making 750 X what workers make, forcing families to suffer all over the world, and the battle is gay marriage?

I'm missing something.

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. From your keyboard to God's monitor

My preference would be for it to come from people who live in the US as opposed to being imposed by people living elsewhere, but the crisis has been allowed to escalate to such an extreme that not only is the survival of non-billionaire individuals and the sovereignty of the US at stake, but the continuance of human life.

Peak oil is not a cockamaimie Twilight Zone plot. It is a scientific fact, and the likelihood that many people, regardless of political leanings, will meekly agree that their lives are a small price to pay to make a few rich people richer is small.

[oasis]

9. Incremental change, is change. A Kerry presidency heads us in the right

direction. To some, "real change" means to end business-as-usual in Washington overnight. To others, just having a new person in the White House will represent meaningful change.

Dean triggered a "change" mentality in a large segment of the American people. Because of his efforts, people will now be a powerful force for change.

Incremental change.