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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:18 PM
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Poll question: Dean as VP
Approve or disapprove with Kerry, Edwards or Kucinich at the top of the ticket?
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:21 PM
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1. well
It really depends

No with Kerry.
But a DEFINITE YES to Edwards and Kucinich.


Id imagine itd be best if he was Edwards VP if he got the nominee. the whole southerner and northerner together.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:22 PM
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3. That works for me too.
The DLC might like that too....They could keep him under wraps that way.....
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:21 PM
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2. I think he'd be a great VP,
but I don't think he'd entice many people to the ticket, since the VP slot normally goes after a different region of the country.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:26 PM
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5. Remember, Clinton was from AR, and Gore TN
both "southern" states.

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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:31 PM
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9. Cheney and Bush both from Texas.
Gore and Clinton both from the southern Midwest.

Your conventional wisdom is looking a little worn.

I know Cheney is nominally from Wyoming.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:24 PM
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4. Wouldn't it be great to have some
backbone some where in the WH? Even if it were VP.

Dean has the ability and the straight forward determination to hold the Democrats feet to the fire.

That is why it is critical to continue to vote for Dean in the primaries.

Just think about the barganing power he would have.

A former presidential candidate who dropped out in February still resonating with the voters so much so, that he continued to win delegates.

Should he be VP, he can help drive policy, chair commissions, and work for us.

The same can be said if he held a cabinet post.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:28 PM
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6. unlikely at best
Maybe Edwards would ask Dean, but never Kerry after Dean went after him in such an ugly way, by calling him just another Republican. Besides, 2 small state New Englanders won't fly.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:30 PM
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8. I agree with you about Kerry not wanting Dean.
Although history tell us that Kennedy absolutly had no use for Johnson, and Johnson did not like Kennedy at all.

I think that the bad blood between Kerry/Dean is real.

The Osama/Dean smear ad in Iowa had Kerry's fingerprints as well as his name all over it.
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 05:38 PM
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20. I read that ad came from a political action group, not Kerry. Got a link
to demonstrate otherwise? I agree it was a very bad ad, but I don't remember ever seeing John Kerry come on at the end and say he approved the message.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:29 PM
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7. Approve, except I'm not sure he'd
accept or be comfortable in the role.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:32 PM
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10. I can't answer this question as it is framed
It would depend on who was at the top of the ticket. Kerry? No way. Edwards? Maybe. Kucincich? No...I think Kucinich would need to find someone to balance him out in areas Dean couldn't.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:32 PM
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11. He'd do more good somewhere else
I think Dean is great -- I think he's done so much to get the spineless Democratic wimps in Congress off their behinds.

I don't think he'd be right for a VP candidate, though, especially
with Kerry. Two "Liberal" New Englanders would turn off too many voters.

Edwards has always been my first choice, though. I think he needs someone with experience in foreign affairs to offset the criticism that he's a novice in this area. Therefore, I think Clark would be his best choice as VP.

If Kerry gets the nomination, I think he should pick Edwards.

Don't forget there are many undecided or independent voters who vote based on sound bites and image. Edwards has the charisma that Kerry lacks.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:35 PM
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13. Addendum to my previous message
I meant to say that I think Dean would be a great Surgeon General or Sec'y of Health, Education and Welfare.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:34 PM
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12. You're joking, right?
Two northeasterners on the same ticket?

Edwards/Dean might work, but I don't think Edwards is going to be the nominee. Kerry/Dean would be a disaster. We'd win ten states, tops.

You will never get me to believe that Dennis Kucinich has even a snowball's chance in Hell of not being mathematically eliminated on March 2nd, so I will only say that what applies to Kerry/Dean applies doubly for DK/Dean.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:55 PM
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14. Geographically, thats just not feasible...
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 01:57 PM by Rowdyboy
2 New England yankees on one ticket? Get serious.
Edwards would be a realistic but highly unlikely match. Kucinich/Dean? No way.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 02:34 PM
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16. Even with Edwards
It would not be feasible. Having the support of Vermont is not much of a showing, and Dean was unable to carry his own region of the country, and polling in the entire Northeast does not show him having much support there either. You dont just select a candidate from a region because he is from that region, You select one because he has had a strong showing in that region. And Deans showing was not particularly good in most regions of the country.

Ocassionally, a VP is selected for his abilty to raise money for the Democratic Party, but that is something that Dean has not shown either. He has shown that he can raise money for himself, but that does not translate into money for other Democrats.
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 02:32 PM
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15. Even Dean on the ticket wouldn't be enough to make me vote for Kerry
But on the ticket with Kucinich would be outstanding and with Edwards would be acceptable.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 02:44 PM
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17. I don't want Dean beholden to anyone
I want Dean to do his thing outside of the establishment, as he has been
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 05:48 PM
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21. Maggrwaggr, my feelings on this are the same
as yours.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 03:06 PM
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18. Bob Graham or Edwards!
My pix! At least then, Jeb and his asshole squad might not be able to fix FloriDUH.

Lu

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 03:52 PM
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19. Dean was the first to be voted off the island. He won't be asked.
Edited on Fri Feb-20-04 03:52 PM by Kahuna
:shrug:
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