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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 02:28 AM
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Why Kucinich Should Concede Nothing
When someone whose opinions I respect as much as John Nichols' joins those who have been saying since 2003 that Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich should announce that he's not REALLY running for president, I feel compelled to reply.

Nichols, like most Americans, supports the same policy positions that I do and that Kucinich does. Nichols would end foreign occupations, cancel NAFTA, create single-payer health coverage, invest in education and green energy, bust media monopolies, and impeach Bush and Cheney. Nichols believes, in fact, that Kucinich is too good a candidate to succeed in our electoral system. But he believes that Kucinich can have a major impact on the other candidates and on Congress if he continues to run while telling everyone that he does not intend to win.

Nichols lists Bill Richardson as one of the "more prominent and moneyed" candidates who is supposedly stealing Kucinich's thunder, even though Richardson has been trailing Kucinich in the polls. In fact, the demand that Kucinich not be a real candidate has never quite held up even on its own terms, namely that candidates trailing in polls and cash should step back. If Kucinich were merely trailing in polls and cash, I doubt any progressives would be urging him to concede. What Kucinich has always decisively trailed in is support from the corporate media.

Imagine if G.E. and Disney and Viacom all shut Kucinich out, mocked and ridiculed him, and "reported" on his non-viability, exactly as they've done for the past four years, but that nobody who agrees with Kucinich played along. Imagine if labor unions backed the most pro-labor candidate. Imagine if peace activists backed the most pro-peace candidate. Imagine if health advocates backed the candidate with the best health coverage plan. Et cetera. And imagine if progressive media outlets and bloggers refused to take their marching orders from the corporate media. Of course, this is not the world we now live in, and that's not John Nichols' fault. But the progressive proposal that Kucinich concede is a reworking of the corporate demand that he concede and would not exist without it. Last time around, the New York Times asked Kucinich to quit the race before the race had started and before the New York Times had told anyone what Kucinich proposed for the presidency. The progressive demand that Kucinich back down is a direct descendant of that New York Times article.

Fox News would love for Kucinich to agree that he is not a real candidate, but Fox would hate for Kucinich to disappear altogether. Having him around to attack serves Fox's purposes. Nichols would have Kucinich do exactly what Fox would have him do, announce that he is not running to win but running to influence others. Nichols and others who take his position do not see this as backing down, but as being smart and strategic. It's probably neither.

Of course, for any given individual debating whether to send money to Kucinich or support him in any way, the primary motivation should be influencing the other candidates and the Congress. There is an urgent need to influence our national politics, and giving Kucinich's campaign a boost would be one of the easiest and, indeed, most viable ways to do it. Flooding Congress with phone calls and Emails and faxes doesn't work very well. Marching a half million people around the Capitol on a Saturday has no noticeable impact. Boycotting your most hated corporations tends not to change Nancy Pelosi's mind on anything. Creative civil disobedience can work very well and requires minimal resources, but most people prefer to write checks, letters to editors, and blogs.

But here's the thing: People who want to support Kucinich in order to influence Pelosi or Clinton or Reid or Edwards can do so RIGHT NOW. They always could. If Kucinich announces that he's not trying to actually win, strategic support for him will gain nothing. But other support for him will be lost, including his own support. There are those, including the candidate himself, who are motivated by either the belief that he can win or the belief that our democracy can be defended through a principled refusal not to bow down to our televisions.

By all means, Kucinich should ask people to support him in order to impact the national conversation. But Kucinich reduced to a one-man activist organization would lose what little impact he has as a full-fledged candidate. How often do you see spokespeople for progressive activist groups on TV?

By all means, Kucinich should stop predicting with absolute certainty that he will be the next president. But he should not make the fatal mistake (fatal for our electoral system) of conceding that he will NOT be the next president. He should leave the predictions to the pundits, as we citizens should do as well.

Here's something else we should do. Get up every morning and write a check for $5 to Kucinich for President. In the little note line in the corner, write "Thanks for Impeachment." Photocopy the check and send the copies to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Paul, Pelosi, Conyers, and Schumer. Then send the original check to Kucinich. Repeat daily until satisfactory results achieved.

Democracy for America (DFA) is a grassroots group closely tied to the Democratic Party and born out of Howard Dean's presidential campaign, many of the supporters of which favored positions like those of Kucinich. Kucinich is currently leading in DFA's unscientific online poll. Last spring, Kucinich finished third in a DFA poll, third in a Moveon.org poll, and second in a poll at Democrats.com. If a good fraction of the people who say "I'd back Kucinich if he had a chance," were to send him $100, he would indeed have a chance. He would also, more importantly and with greater likelihood, impact the agenda in Congress where Pelosi currently follows Clinton's lead. But you don't often hear people remarking "I'd back Kucinich if I thought Pelosi would notice." That's not how most people tend to think about elections.

People do, however, think (if that's the word for it) strategically about backing the candidate who will win, rather than the candidate they agree with. And the corporate media sells them on the idea that right-wing "swing voters" decide everything. But, did you ever wonder why the Republicans seem so much less obsessed with swing voters? Chris Bowers has presented a strong case that these mythical creatures do not actually exist. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/50646 Only 4.7% of voters changed their mind during the last election from Bush to Kerry or Kerry to Bush. Kerry may have been swiftboated, but hardly anyone changed their mind from backing Kerry to backing Bush. What did happen, of course, is that millions of supporters of Kerry (and of Bush too) didn't bother to vote or to register to vote. What would it take for the Democrats to register and turn out likely Democratic voters in sufficient numbers to beat election fraud? It would take a candidate who wasn't for the war before he was against it. The mushy middle turns potential voters away.

You can refuse to back Kucinich for fear of being teased for backing a loser. But backing a corporate Democrat who has voted to fund the occupation of Iraq is actually a good way to lose the general election. So is impeachment avoidance. As John Nichols lays out so brilliantly in his book "The Genius of Impeachment," the party that brings impeachment wins. When the Republicans tried to impeach Truman they won. When the Democrats tried to impeach Nixon they won. When the Democrats refrained from impeaching Reagan they lost. When the Republicans impeached Bill Clinton against the will of the public, they won the White House and kept both houses of Congress.

There are peace activists and other progressives who favor the creation of a third party, and who argue against backing Kucinich because they think he'll lose and then endorse a less desirable candidate. Those worries would be bolstered by Nichols' proposal. As soon as Kucinich says he's not really running, the only question he'll be asked will be "Who are you backing?" Sure, his answer could be used to nudge the other Democrats, but an honest answer based on his platform would include the possibility of not backing a Democrat. And that would be the end to Kucinich as any sort of candidate, as he would be locked out of Democratic debates.

Kucinich is less likely to lose and more likely to influence the other candidates if he refuses to concede and if those who agree with him support him. Supporting him now will serve primarily to help end the occupation of Iraq prior to the election. And supporting Kucinich will not make the task of building a third party any more or less daunting. A third-party peace candidate would need everything Kucinich has and much more in qualifications, and much, much more in money in order to have a chance. Not backing Kucinich because he's not "viable" can lead only by the most twisted logic to backing the virtually impossible candidacy of a third party progressive.

And here's something interesting about Kucinich. He supports all the reforms to our election and campaign finance systems that would make it possible for third parties to compete, and he does not go back on his word after he wins elections. When Kucinich was elected mayor of Cleveland at the age of 31 on a promise not to privatize the city's electricity, he stuck to his word in the face of an all-out assault from the city's media and corporate rulers. When his decision was vindicated years later by the fortune he'd saved the city, he re-entered politics. When the Democratic leadership pulled out every trick to pressure congress members to vote for the Supplemental war spending bill last spring, Kucinich voted no. Efforts to build decent third parties like the Green Party are to be applauded, but backing Kucinich is one way to do that. Check out Kucinich's substantive and specific positions on a hundred and one issues facing this country: http://kucinich.us/issues
And remember: Kucinich's height may be hard to change, but he doesn't fall off everything he rides, give inappropriate shoulder massages, or shoot his buddies in the face. He may have seen a UFO, but he didn't see any WMDs.
___

David Swanson is the Washington Director of Democrats.com and co-founder of the AfterDowningStreet.org coalition, a board member of Progressive Democrats of America, and of the Backbone Campaign. He serves on a working group of United for Peace and Justice. He has worked as a newspaper reporter and as a communications director, with jobs including Press Secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign. In April and May 2007, Swanson consulted part-time for Kucinich for President 2008. His website is www.davidswanson.org.

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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:28 AM
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1. Kick *ss article, thanks! D. K. stands for everything I believe in.
Recommending.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:05 AM
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2. k&r n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:05 AM
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3. k&r n/t
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:21 AM
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4. K&R! n/t
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:44 AM
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5. Yes.
:kick:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:29 AM
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6. Gtreat analysis.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:37 AM
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7. Thanks for the posting David!
:yourock:

:beer: :toast:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:40 AM
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8. Like I always say--
--just keep on asking for the pony, even if you'll eventually accept a kitten.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:01 AM
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9. Even if Dennis is not the selected candidate, I want his planks in the platform
Not the wimpy boards of the other candidates!

I ask who the wimpy candidates are? It's not Dennis!

-Hoot
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:54 AM
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10. K & R . n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:00 AM
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11. outstanding
and nothing disappoints me more than hearing peopLe say, "i agree with dennis on everything, but he has no shot, so i'm backing one of the top 3."

it's mind-bLowing. how can you not vote your conscience.

k&r
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:07 AM
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12. I think many people who say that about Kucinich are just trying to be agreeable. (nt)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:10 AM
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13. Excellent article, David.. Many thanks for clarifying why it's important
for Kucinich to stay in there fighting for a progressive agenda. The more support he gets the more the Democratic Party is forced to move to the Progressive values that most of them have lost or compromised away. The best way for change at this point for '08 is to support Kucinich rather than a third party.
We have to deal with what we have and try build a strong coalition within before we can hope to split off (if it becomes necessary) at some point in the future. Kucinich is already a serving Congressman...and no one can take that status away from him...much as the media tries. Enough of this "rally round" the media's chosen or we will lose. In these dire times "principle" has to win over "politics as usual." We haven't been through 7 years of hell to have another Media Selection/ Election.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:13 AM
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14. I am NOT afraid to vote for the candidate/issues I support-wish I could say same for all Dems nt
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:20 AM
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15. Fear of being teased?
I guess if you think your own convictions are silly then yes, you might be afraid of that. I think almost everyone I know who supports Dennis Kucinich has been teased at one time or another but I don't know a single one who has even thought twice about letting that change their mind or make them stop speaking the truth about him and his policies.

He is damned serious about his issues and so are we who support him. If I don't support the core elements of my own beliefs I would be stupid and then I would deserve a long, painful teasing.

Thanks.
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:07 PM
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16. Very Well Written. K&R
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 12:08 PM by penguin7
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:14 PM
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17. Excellent points, David - K&R
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:05 PM
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18. K&R for common sense as usual David. Thanks.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:10 PM
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19. Richardson is not trailing Kucinich in the polls.
They are tied 4 of the last nine. Richardson leads by a 1pt in 3 while Kucinich has a 1 and 3 pt lead in 2 others.

But thank you for including your disclosure.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:12 PM
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20. Glad to recommend it! Great assessment!
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 04:13 PM by DutchLiberal
All the reasons laid out to support Kucinich, and all arguments against it shot down!

Vote DK! :applause:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:28 PM
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21. Excellent article! K&R and bookmarked. -nt
:dem:
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:19 PM
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22. Run to win. Like our lives depend on it.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:57 AM
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38. Our lives may very well depend on it along with
our freedoms, security, justice, peace, and so many more. Yes, I'm voting based on his record, his platforms, his actions, his compassion, and his integrity with my voting for him to win, as was said, against the corporate and media wishes. He is also getting a contribution from me that I had planned to do anyway. He is the best man for the job imho, though a couple come close.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:24 PM
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23. K&R for saving our democracy
Dennis is the candidate that best exemplifies Democratic ideals...I will proudly cast my vote for him. :kick:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:45 PM
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24. Dennis has been my choice all along.
You have done a good job of suming up why. One of my friends is Dennis's Ct state election director and I am lucky enough to have met him. He is the real deal.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:34 PM
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25. Thank you, David
Would that I had the money to give daily.

Your viewpoint is extremely valuable, and always spot on. I often share your articles with friends and family, and encourage them to visit your sites: I tell them they won't be disappointed.


Thanks :hi:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:42 PM
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26. The times they are achangin'
More of the new Silent Majority support Kucinich than MSM is willing to admit. MSM will do anything to belittle him & his serious campaign.

Kucinich is indeed electable, but corporate Amurika won't stand for it...thus the belittling.

If we vote for him because we align with his platform, then he will win.

Exert your independence....think for yourself & vote your desires. :patriot:
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:17 PM
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27. Dennis will move up a spot now that Stephen Colbert has dropped out***
I like him, but more as entertainment than as a legitimate contender.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:19 PM
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28. "a principled refusal not to bow down to our televisions"
GAWDDAMN, that's one of the best posts I've ever seen in my 5+ years at DU.

STOP MAKING SENSE (not)!!!


recommended
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:21 PM
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29. Was Kuch this BIG on DU in 2004 ?
I don't remember, I joined after the '04 DNCC.

Glad he's so popular here. I like the Kuch :)
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:27 PM
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30. That Touch of Kucinich.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:36 PM
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31. S-P-I-N-E! What a wonderful word. We have nothing to fear...
...but propaganda, itself. If we are so shallow that we fear being "teased" for backing the most honest and on-point candidate running, then we deserve to lose this democracy. We need to follow Kucinich's example and stand on principle, not vote with a finger to the wind to be sure we're part of the winning camp.

Great article, David Swanson!
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:57 PM
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32. K&R - "Doesn't... shoot his buddies in the face!" lol
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 11:57 PM by Beartracks
"And remember: Kucinich's height may be hard to change, but he doesn't fall off everything he rides, give inappropriate shoulder massages, or shoot his buddies in the face. He may have seen a UFO, but he didn't see any WMDs."

:headbang:

Guess I need to go read those 101 issues.
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:06 AM
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33. Dennis Kuchinich is so
absolutely on target to everything progressives (I still prefer the good old term Liberal -- nothing wrong with that word, and I've always been proud to be one -- and always will be so) believe in that I'm quite puzzled there is any debate or comparison between him as our candidate and characters such as Hillary and Obama.
(LOL Yeah run on sentence -- so flunk me in grammar, see if I lose sleep over it :P)

That those two panderers can raise more money and have so many corporate 'sponsors' (who owns ya, baby?) should raise a huge red (state) flag to any self-and-principle-respecting Democrat.

Even Al Gore, as much as I support and admire what he's done --especially lately-- is historically at least joined at the hip to the DLC.
With all due respect Mr. Gore, that is cause for concern...

And this article is completely correct -- what do we need a third party for when we've got Dennis?!
For those so-called "peace activists and other progressives" "who argue against backing Kucinich because they think he'll lose" -- well they're doing the exact same thing as our fainthearted, chicken-shit Democratic politicians in Washington who won't even begin to consider impeachment, nevermind Bush, Cheney, et. al.'s public, multiple, deliberate crimes!


You support the candidate who is both morally and intellectually honest, and most importantly who is not AFRAID to be so;

you support the candidate who is clearly correct, from what I've seen most people agree with DK, so what is the problem?!

you build this candidate up and defend him with his stated, clear, logical, statesmanlike, non-hypocritical platform,
with his own WORDS and ACTIONS

and you grow support!

In the America that should be,
in the America that used to be,
it wasn't the candidate who got the most corporate support!
It wasn't the candidate who raised the most money!

It was the candidate who had the capability, intellect, principles and trustworthiness to do the job.
Nothing less -- as if 'having a beer with...' was ANY reason to elect a president!

So what the FUCK happened?


Other than not raising so many millions, all I hear is Dennis Kuchinich is SHORT!
Well Lincoln was too freaking tall; he was gangly and awkward,
and ya know, he was plug ugly!


Does anyone HONESTLY think he'd stand a chance today in our beauty-and-notoriety adoring "civilization"?
At a time where in liberal California of all places, a Republican body-building action "hero" can actually reverse,
can take away a legitimate Democratic statesman's electoral win?!

It's bad enough to witness the continually paralyzed cerebral processes of most 'mainstream Americans'; dumbed-down virtual retards who, no matter what the content, American Idol or the latest push for preemptive war, can do nothing more than just nod their heads like semi-living automatons
--Dittoheads indeed! :puke:

Jeebus Jumping Christ on a pogo stick, watching these cretins attempt to grasp a simple cogent thought is like watching a mime acting out his portrayal of trying to catch a butterfly!


but worse, what the FUCK happened to the Democratic Party?

& I'm not just talking about the beltway 'insiders' -- I'm talking about all of us WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER
because more and more, there seems to be no difference in either groups behavior!


:rant:
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:09 AM
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34. kick
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:07 AM
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39. Welcome to DU
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:11 AM
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35. K&R for excellent argument and analysis nt
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:35 AM
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36. Great post. I especially liked this idea:

"Here's something else we should do. Get up every morning and write a check for $5 to Kucinich for President. In the little note line in the corner, write "Thanks for Impeachment." Photocopy the check and send the copies to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Paul, Pelosi, Conyers, and Schumer. Then send the original check to Kucinich. Repeat daily until satisfactory results achieved."

My suggestion: To save on postage and photocopying, for those who don't have a home copier, and to save time, write a check for as much as you can afford for the week or the month and follow the above instructions.

That should work well, too, if enough people just do it.

Maybe add "and for opposing the war" after "Thanks for impeachment." What do you think?
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:24 AM
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40. Might be too long, but I like the thoughts.
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 02:28 AM by FREEWILL56
I'm just going to send it to him without the pics of the checks being sent as the other contenders can do similar stunts. The money going to DK will help him do what's needed along with volunteering when the time comes. Most importantly is voting your convictions and forget the crap about height or polls as this stuff attempts to trivialize a good candidate to purposely sway more votes away from him originating from candidates and supporters of those candidates that are underhanded, bought, and less qualified than DK.
Think of how much better off we would be with DK and unlike the song Imagine, by one of the greatest singers to date, I would like it to become reality rather than the smoke and mirrors (ok lies) we've seen from some other polititians. I believe DK would make it happen.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:18 AM
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41. Wonder if DK is a Lennon fan?

I cried the night he died. We had the radio on as we were going to sleep and the dj announced that Lennon had been shot. After the next song ended, he was kind of choke up as he said "We just lost a Beatle." Then he played "Imagine." I lay there and cried all through the song, probably longer. So many people with dreams have been killed in my lifetime,deliberately and in suspicious "accidents." I worry about DK's safety, hope he stays off small planes. If people would stop saying "Well, I like his ideas but he can't win" and support him with money and time and votes, he could win.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:52 AM
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37. FORTY -THREE PRESIDENTS AND ONE PRETENDER
IT IS HE END GAME.



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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 06:38 AM
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42. Kick.
Go Dennis! NGU. Peace, Kim
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