the witch triaLs of saLem

[sniffa]

is a fascinating time in history.

[ruggerson]

1. sniffa, you're doing to women exactly what you complain about

when it's done to gay people.

You're triviliazing coded language and sexism, because you hate Hillary so much.

Hate her because you think she's a rightwinger, and you disagree with all her views, but don't add fuel to the fire of those who would try to diminish the importance of misogyny.

You're, in a snide way, telling people to "get over it."

Very uncool.

[sniffa]

4. not reaLLy

if this was aLL contained in a few threads about it, i'd say my piece and move on.

but, if i can't beat them, i might as weLL join them. another 2 witch threads for GDP. :woohoo:

i'm so gLad there's nothing eLse to taLk about.... Like how douchebag is a sexist word used to hoLd back women.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. I won't hesitate for a second to tell you to "GET OVER" the witch thing

It's a stupid Red Herring that you are trying to turn into an actual scandal. It completely laughable.

[ruggerson]

28. Who's trying to turn it into a scandal?

it's a discussion on a political discussion board. It's a cultural issue and one of the leading presidential candidates was in the skit. It's perfectly appropriate to dissect its meaning and what it symbolizes.

[Joe the Revelator]

34. You going to tell me that there was a concerted effort to make this a much bigger deal then it was?

That dog just isn't going to hunt. 10 threads popped up in a matter of minutes, and each of the thread starters were completely blind to reality. Self-Righteous, fake outrage was the order of the day.

[ruggerson]

36. You're truly full of shit

Do you think everyone here PM"s each other and tries to drum up a "scandal" about an event on television? You probably also think everyone on here is paid by a campaign. I can only speak for myself, but I found the language offensive and posted what I felt about it. If you don't like how others react to something, tough shit. No one is looking to you for permission before they react to something.

[AlCzervik]

2. Remember the Witch hook at the wax museum? No way could win with that one.

unharmed and they kill you, innocent and the hook cuts you in half.

[sniffa]

5. no, i had no idea about the hook.

:wow:

i'm gonna have to wiki it. i onLy knew of the drownings. i haven't been to saLem since i was a chiLd.

[AlCzervik]

8. it scared the shit out of me when i was a kid, it looked like an upside down sickle

and they hung the alleged witch over it and if she was cut in half or killed by it she was then pronounced "Oops, not a witch, sorry".

[bicentennial_baby]

6. I remember that!!

:bounce:

And the whole, if she floats she's not a witch, or whatever...Either way, you drown! x(

:hi:

[AlCzervik]

9. yup, that one too! Oh the joys of a new england childhood!

[bicentennial_baby]

11. There's nothing like it...

:D

Abd btw, the Pats are hanging on so far, 7-6 in the 2nd. :scared:

[CBHagman]

3. I've always thought so.

Back in grade school, I first started reading about those events. As an adult, I even visited Salem during a vacation trip to Boston...

[sniffa]

7. it's fascinating, comicaL, and tragic

i've read some about it, and it seems it was more of poLitics and score settLing than actuaL fear of them being witches.

[hlthe2b]

15. "comical" ?

Good God....:eyes:

[sniffa]

17. yes, comicaL

peopLe beLieving in withes?

good god... :eyes:

[hlthe2b]

20. resulting in horrendous torture and murder of these women...

harty harr harr... so funny, isn't it sniffa. :sarcasm:

I think you need a humanity transplant...

[Name removed]

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[hlthe2b]

24. Most who died were women...

That does not negate the harm to any men caught up. NOr does it imply that I hate men. Sniffa, what is wrong with you?

[sniffa]

25. what is wrong with me?

nothing. i'm just responding in kind to your ridicuLous posts. bye.

[Chovexani]

29. Science hasn't figured out what's wrong with you bro

But I hear these guys are on the verge of a breakthrough.



:P

[sniffa]

35. meep meep

:rofl:

[sam sarrha]

10. the play/movie/book the 'Crucible' was actually written to condemn the Josef mc Cathay hearings on

'UnAmerican Activities'.. it was about how Fascists bastards use fear and hysteria to take over and destroy the Constitution

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Yep...Great piece of work too.

:)

[sam sarrha]

13. what actually happened was the authorities were stealing th victims property by filing false charges

getting rid of them

[bicentennial_baby]

14. really?

tell me more. :)

[sam sarrha]

19. the Inquisition started about the time of the end of 300 years of war, since so many widows owned

the best farm land they needed a way to legally 'take' it.. about this time doctors were graduating from the new universities.. no one wanted to go to them because of unsanitary procedures resulted in so many deaths for simple procedures

so people went to the local herbal healers, so the doctors bribed the authorities to declare the healers witches and kill them all off..

it became a mega profitable business for lawyers, jailers..etc etc, the church and gov and all the support industry,,totrturers..guards.etc

it became a hysteria market, many took advantage of it... same thing happened in salem

it wasn't till an entire city was executed ..except for the authorities holding all their property... did people get the guts to stand up to the industry

there is a wonderful documentary called 'the burning times' about it

[bicentennial_baby]

21. Wow, fascinating....I have to check that doc out!

Thank you so much! :hi:

[sam sarrha]

27. book is ... 'the burning time'

http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=7788029 347 pages ~$8

http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com and http://www.amazon.com

there is another one of only 107 pages,,not the one i was referring to

the documentary is sorta expensive

maybe at your library

[bicentennial_baby]

32. I'll try and get my hands on it through the University library

and I'm a TA for a History prof, so I'll ask him too :)

:hi:

[sam sarrha]

37. the book burning time is a fitional novel... the dvd/video 'burning times' is a documentery..link>

http://wc03.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:184264, library might have it

sorry i was confused

[SaveElmer]

16. My...GGGGGGGGGGGGG Grandmother was one of those convicted...

Mary Bradbury...put in jail but escaped...when she was in her 80's...

[bicentennial_baby]

18. Good for her!

:applause:

[Chovexani]

26. Dude, you know I love you

But I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this whole thing.

I don't think this whole thing is scandalous to the point of the McChickenhead incident, nor do I think it should turn into a big campaign issue, but I guess it's the English major in me that is fascinated by language and how it's used.

Shit, my immature ass is all for name-calling. :P I just question why certain names are used, is all.

[sniffa]

30. and i Love you

:loveya:

your thread was awesome. the countLess other threads and posts, not so much.

[Chovexani]

33. Yeah, I think it's a little nuts

But that's DU. :crazy:

[FormerDittoHead]

31. FYI - I'm a direct descendant of one of the "witches"...

...and if I were a woman, I could belong to
THE ASSOCIATED DAUGHTERS OF EARLY AMERICAN WITCHES
http://www.adeaw.us
an organization which my mother was a founding member.