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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM
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SNL uses a female cast member to play Kuccinich..
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM by Wolsh

is that sexist against Dennis's masculinity?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:31 PM
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1. yes, and it's no better than racism
we shouLd start a few more threads about it.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:35 PM
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2. LOL
They also made a joke about him looking like a young boy. That's obviously a slap in the face to every man out there who looks younger than his actual age.
Who do they think they are making fun of Presidential candidates? This shouldn't be allowed in a civilized society.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:42 AM
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29. I should think that if you are over 60--
--looking younger than your actual age would be a good thing. And they manage to turn that into a negative? WTF??
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:32 PM
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19. I know you're upset about the whole witch = misogyny thing
But there is a difference. The "witch" running gag---how is anyone to interpret that other than a strong women get called "witch"---and why? That's where you need to do more thinking.

Kucinich portrayed as a woman yet making out passionately with his wife (what the skit shows). That is obviously not meant to demean Kucinich's masculinity, just the opposite.

So if you see no one making an issue over a woman playing Kucinich, that is why---there is no issue.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:05 PM
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22. weLL, there's one probLem with that
hiLLary is not a strong woman. yes, she has a vagina, but that's about it.

i'm offended by peopLe caLLing her a strong woman...... but then going ape shit about witch, and men picking on her.

i'm offended by peopLe caLLing her a strong woman, when she Lacks a moraL compass, and can't make a decision before the focus groups cLose. and even then her decisions are just rambLing non-answers.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:51 AM
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33. She is strong enough to wipe the floor with Kucinich in his home state:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:37 PM
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3. SNL sucks.
I tried to watch it a few times. Couldn't get through the first 5 minutes.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:46 PM
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4. Same here. Watched the video posted here - Gravel in a straight jacket?
Funnier still, with Ron Paul as the hero of the ultra hip!
Nah, ever since they made fun of us the voters in 2000, I am off that propaganda tool.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:48 PM
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7. Just because it's been on for over 100 years doesn't mean it needs to stay on.
I couldn't even name anyone on there. It's embarrassing to watch.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:46 PM
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5. about 3 audience members chuckle a little
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:47 PM
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6. All the great movies on TCM last night and people watched SNL instead.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:53 PM
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8. Actually most of us were out. But someone posted on you tube, here
so, the skit on the democrats became known this way. Somehow, Edwards' supporters missed their boy's hobo costume and thought the whole thing was adorable and overpraised it on page one. Hence the controversy on DU.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:54 PM
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9. I haven't watched it in over 10 years and I don't think I'm missing anything.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:28 PM
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16. Same here
It's nothing like what it was in the 70s. It's a casualty of the past Republican administrations. No bite left in it.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:20 AM
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28. I DID watch the 1956 version of 'War and Peace' after SNL...
Of course, it sucks, all 3 1/2 hours of it, Henry Fonda and his corn-fed mid-west accent as Pierre, a Russian, but the big-budget battle scenes were very interesting and there's Audrey Hepburn.

For the record, I thought the SNL sketch, which I posted in the Political Videos forum, sucked big-time.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:02 PM
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10. I Think You Over Think It
They probably have a woman playing Kucinich because of his stature - DK is short and slight in form with a somewhat gamine appearance. A woman was probably the cast member who best duplicated those physical characteristics
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:03 PM
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11. but now you're thinking
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 04:04 PM by sniffa
and if you do that, you might not go ape-shit over the witch skit.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:05 PM
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12. SNL is yet another tool of...
the corporate masters.

Tool #4,726, I believe, and yet another TV show we can't watch because NBC is owned by General Electric so the network is not ideologically pure and the show isn't funny any more without the classics like Belushi as a bee or Chevy Chase tripping over something. At least this is what I'm told by people who don't watch the show, or any TV at all.

Besides, they made fun of MY candidate-- how dare they!

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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:35 PM
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25. I don't really have a "my candidate" - I found all the attacks unfunny and some
in poor taste - so there.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:11 PM
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13. The last time I watched Saturday Night Live we were going to a movie
but didn't because of the infamous Saturday Night Massacre.

It's been a while, I guess.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:24 PM
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14. Not likely
Saturday Night Massacre: October 20, 1973

First broadcast of Saturday Night Live: October 11, 1975
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:41 PM
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20. Thanks. It was some big to-do like that. I could have sworn it was the
Saturday Night Massacre. Damn. Now I'll have to figure out what was. I'm sure, though, that it was something tied to Washington, itself, and not a generic national or world disaster, otherwise we probably would have gone out.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:26 PM
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15. I don't think that was the intention
Not knowing what's in the head of the SNL writers, I thought it pretty cool. The only candidate that wouldn't be judgmental about cross-dressing would be Kucinich!
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:31 PM
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17. Hogwash! The Freedom Toast used a man to portray Hillary and a woman to portray Obama
And it worked in their April DC show, and from what I heard (haven't yet seen the new version),
it had people laughing so hard, they had tears streaming down their face at the show in
NYC at the Triad now running ("Political Idol"). I'm going to see it on Dec. 4.

I think in a satirical spoof, it doesn't matter at all. The same woman who plays Obama also
plays Al Sharpton and Tina Turner. So what? If it works, it works. And TFT is a 100% Democratic
outfit, so they for sure aren't looking to tear down any of the Democrats.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:31 PM
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18. Is this a joke? I cant fucking tell around here all the sudden. n/t
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:47 PM
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21. funny thing


There was also a man portraying a woman on SNL last night.

Funny how it's insulting to a man for him to be portrayed by a woman ...

By the way, SNL has definitely improved this season after being a wet wad of kleenex for years. The phenomenon can also be seen on Law&Order, for instance: suddenly, it's cool in teeveeland to be "liberal" again, after years of pandering to the right wing and their right-wing sentiments and causes. Wot a bunch of spineless moneygrubbers.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:53 PM
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23. they've done that before
Phil Hartman played Barbara Bush
John Goodman played Linda Tripp

I dunno, I just think it's funny when the impersonation is done by someone of another gender. Ya can't take that as a compliment.

Of course, that one SNL actress does play a lot of young looking males.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:34 AM
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32. Fuck'em if they can't take a joke.

But Tripp's choices turned her into a political pariah and made her ripe for scathing parody. In February 1998, she became a national punch line when TV's "Saturday Night Live" aired a skit in which actor John Goodman portrayed Tripp as a backstabbing snitch. The national attention took Tripp and her family by surprise.

"I was hurt that I was being defined by a package as opposed to who I was and what my motivation was," she said. "The painful part of ... being defined as this horribly ugly, nasty, mean-spirited person was that ... my children were exposed to it. And that's their mom out there."

The media glare spurred Tripp to remove all of the televisions from her house for five years. She also decided to have plastic surgery.



http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/20/cnn25.tan.tripp/index.html


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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:54 PM
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24. No. It's a comedy sketch show.
That show, and many others of its kind, "poke fun" at all types of people. That is the nature of the show.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:40 PM
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26. It probably had more to do with body type.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:43 PM
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27. I know, I was trying to make a point earlier today nt
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:22 AM
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30. . . . and a male to plaly Star Jones.
Seriously, what is up with this business of going on television and pretending to be people that you're not?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:25 AM
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31. Will Ferrell used to portray Janet Reno:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 12:53 PM
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34. Amy Poehler is awesome but wasted on SNL.
Upright Citizen's Brigade was great though.

As for her playing DK, it doesn't bother me.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:03 PM
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35. I often wonder if Dennis looked like Pat Tillman, what would his poll
numbers look like and would he be ridiculed as much. Would he be mainstream?
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