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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:07 PM
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Is witch a popular Halloween costume? Yes or no? When SNL does a skit about Halloween costume . .
. . .party how the hell can that be misogynistic? I want to be sensitive but we are talking about a late night comedy skit about Halloween and witch is a very popular costume. Now if it were a X-mas party it would be something else.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:08 PM
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1. a ghost is a popular halloween costume too...
If Obama was dressed as a spook would that be ok?
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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:10 PM
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3. It depends what type of spook you are talking about. . .if it was a GOD DAMNED GHOST. . .
. . .it would be fine. Lets be honest a GOD DAMNED WITCH as a FUCKING Halloween costume has never been deemed as politically incorrect. CONTEXT PEOPLE, SOME FUCKING CONTEXT!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:15 PM
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9. louder and nastier does not make you more right--it just makes you look
like a _itch. We all know that dehumanzing women has been going on for centuries. Masking it as a joke (like Edwards did when he talked about how bad she looked in a certain colored suit), or calling her a witch in the context of Halloween, does not make it less harmful to women. It just makes it easier to swallow.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:19 PM
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12. My brain just froze up.
Making a Hillary witch pun on SNL is sexist, but calling undercoverduer a bitch is okay? Are you for real?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:20 PM
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13. No. It is not ok! Do I have to spell this out for you?
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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:21 PM
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15. Hillary supporters fake ass self serving indignation. . .
. . .you got to love it.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:28 PM
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17. dang you must busy
this is the third post--are you just following me swearing at every post?

Apparently, you are too angry and ? to understand the nuance of my example...but it does explain alot.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM
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19. I don't support Hillary, I just take umbrage with the Hillary bashers.
I find many of their posts to be offensive and of the personal-attack nature. That gets my attention, and brings me to the table. Rude bullies who use personal attacks don't deserve a pass.

Don't think for a second that posters who are offended by your antics are just offended because they're "Hillary supporters". Not the case at all.

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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM
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21. What are my antics. . .
. . .oh this should be good.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:34 PM
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24. Pretending you don't understand the connotation of "witch" as it relates to women
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 03:37 PM by Harper_is_Bush
And then yelling ans swearing your head off at someone who makes a valid (and polite) point.

And no, it aint good.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:59 PM
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28. I support Hillary, if you think people are irritated, wait until the Repuke spin machine kicks in
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 04:00 PM by bushmeat
Hoards of us will be furious. I am glad she has her legendary 'war room' we will need it.
In the meantime people need to lighten-up
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:27 PM
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16. Settle down. Evergreen's point is valid...
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 03:37 PM by Harper_is_Bush
...the "context" you are seeking is in the connotation of the word "witch" as it's used towards women.

If you're going to pretend the connotation wasn't there, you lose credibility. To ask "what's wrong with a witch costume? It's a popular costume." is just silly, given the context that you claim to be interested in.

The comparison of dressing Obama as a ghost and calling him a "spook" sheds light on the context very well.

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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:29 PM
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18. Which costume are you talking about? n/t
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:31 PM
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22. The bride costume, which the OP refers to as a witch costume. n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 03:37 PM by Harper_is_Bush
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:19 PM
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11. You know, back when SNL was actually funny, I could imagine them using a ghost costume
for Garrett Morris.

Good Comedy knows no fear.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:09 PM
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2. It totally is a popular costume
Trust me on this. I worked in a costume store for Halloween.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:12 PM
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4. There was no "witch" costume on the SNL skit. nm.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:12 PM
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5. What is the context, here? Context is EVERYTHING.
If you are trying to obliquely insult someone by calling them a witch, that's just plain meanness.

The costume itself isn't "mysogynistic," because witches are seen in popular culture and literature as females.

If the goal, though, is to be cruel to someone by suggesting that they are a 'witch' (in the 'bitch' sense) then that's what's called a cheap shot. Childish, funky, and not cool.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:13 PM
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6. Obama's costume was the best, imo.
:)
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:14 PM
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7. It was apparently popular at one time
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:21 PM
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14. making lemonade
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:30 PM
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20. lol nt
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:57 PM
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25. It is revealing that she chose that color - black instead of white or pink
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 03:57 PM by bushmeat
Hillary would have made a better choice to dress in pink as a 'good witch'

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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:14 PM
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8. Oh for chrissake. How about this: Is "bitch" not a female dog?
If they'd had Hillary dress up as a dog and called her a "bitch" in the skit, I suppose because animals are popular costumes you'd be confused about that also?

Stop playing dumb. Or look up the term "connotation".
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:17 PM
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10. Thank you!
someone with some sense has responded.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:31 PM
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23. She wasn't in a witch costume
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 04:00 PM by Jim4Wes
The joke of the skit was that her opponents and probably some Americans would love to call her a witch.

The only pass I give it, is that it is a silly comedy show.


edited to include "witch costume" as originally intended.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:57 PM
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26. I don't know where you live
but here, wearing a Bridal Gown in a SKIT about a HALLOWEEN party would indeed be considered a 'costume'.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:59 PM
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27. Sorry, I left out the word "witch" as in witch costume.
cya.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:00 PM
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29. Oops, yeah -- that kinda changes it.
LOL!!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:01 PM
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30. lol nt
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