John Edwards is practicing the POLITICS OF HYPOCRISY

[Herman Munster]

Watch this video and tell me he's not a hypocrite? Or is he going to apologize and say he was wrong for this too like co-sponsoring the IWR?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL5kQy_j-t4

[aquart]

1. You really think that hypocrisy is an unusual feature in a candidate?

Or that you can find one without any?

[denem]

2. "We must not allow Saddam to have nuclear weapons"

"winning the peace" By 2003, none of the security assessments suggested that Saddam has a Nuclear Weapons program. That much had been shot down in congressional hearings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g238i7O529o

[Ninga]

3. I noticed this is from the 2003/2004 campaign. Things change.

[Herman Munster]

5. FLIP FLOP

I guess he was for the politics of hope before he was against it like the Iraq War. :P

[skipos]

6. And Kucinich flip flopped on choice. He was a rabid anti-choicer up until a few years ago

It is ok to change your mind sometimes.

[Bluebear]

7. "FLIP FLOP": the great right wing cry implying educated people can never change their mind.

[goodgd_yall]

"Vacillate" is too big a word n/t

[ClassWarrior]

22. Apparently he wants a "decisive" president.

One who clings tenaciously to his beliefs, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

Oh wait, he already has one...

:rofl:

NGU.

[Bluebear]

26. "At least you know where he stands!"

Marvelous!

[madmunchie]

42. CORRECTION: "At least you know where he stands!" Today!

[penguin7]

36. It was not OK to join Bush in his push for war in 2002-03

And please explain how Edwards knew that Saddam had WMDs?

Edwards was either lying or showing some horrible judgement.

[madmunchie]

45. Which is his 2 biggest problems: horrible judgement and not

owning up to what exact convinced him to support Bush in his push for war in 02'& 03'.

[ClassWarrior]

11. Step away from the Radical RW meme...

:puke:

NGU.

[Herman Munster]

16. so i guess it's OK to use radical RW meme's against Hillary

but when it's against Edwards it's not OK?

Is that the gender card I hear so much about wringing its ugly head on DU?

[ClassWarrior]

23. Show me where I've ever used a Radical RW meme against anybody.

By the way, Einstein, there's no apostrophe in the plural "memes."

:eyes:

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

27. Oh, and speaking of gender, why do you refer to Edwards by his last name...

...but you refer to Sen. Clinton by her first, like she's the house girl?? Hmmmm??

Stones and glass houses don't mix, Buckaroo.

NGU.

[Forkboy]

33. So it's NOT ok to use a RW meme gainst Hillary but it's ok when it's against Edwards?

Do you ever even think when you post? Or do you just get off on being a flaming hypocrite?

[goodgd_yall]

17. Every campaign is different---it's politics, folks

In that campaign there was no runaway frontrunner. If you want to be president and you are in a 2-digit percentage points behind the frontrunner, you focus on the frontrunner and point out his or her weaknesses. HRC would do the same thing if she was falling behind.

[Ninga]

20. Different times, different opponents, require different responses.

[madmunchie]

41. Yeah, they change according to the polls for this guy

[sniffa]

4. damn, you're desperate

but keep on BLAZING THAT HILL.

[Herman Munster]

8. no your candidate is the desperate one

My candidate isn't at 11% in the polls and so bankrupt that he had to take public financing and shoot his general election chances in the foot because of it.

[surfermaw]

10. Run John Run

Clark isn't in the race this time....

[madmunchie]

44. No, Clark has been busy working for the good of the country

instead of working exclusively for the good of himself like JE..... Real impressive seeing how well he is doing in the polls. In fact ALL of the other candidates are still working for the people while campaigning - and JE still just is working exclusively to help his ego.

[ClassWarrior]

13. I know you are, but what am I??

I'm rubber and you're glue. Everything you type bounces off me and sticks to you.

:rofl:

NGU.

[sniffa]

14. riiiiiiiiiight

that's why kucinich supporters are aLL over DU posting poLLs and acting Like totaL douchebags.

because my candidate is desperate.

i can never understand hiLL peopLe - even if you win, it's a Loss for aLL. it's simiLar to the rapture ready crowd.

[Inspired]

30. You nailed it with this statement.....

Even if you win, it's a loss for all

[denem]

9. Except

It is Edwards who keeps harping on about saying one thing at one time and another time at another time. He has reversed his positions much more than the other candidates except as always Kucinich.

[Egalia]

12. The GOP already has it

on file. I hate to see the Dems do so much work for the Republicans. I liked John better when he was resolved not to attack Dems.

[emilyg]

18. I'm proud to say I never liked him.

[Ninga]

21. An empty and self serving proclamation. Who are you? And tell us why we should care who

you are, or are not proud of.


It is this vapid and empty drifting in and out of threads, just to stir the shit up, just to demean the discourse.

[emilyg]

35. I don't care if "WE" care. Expressing my dislike - that's all.

[madmunchie]

46. "Who are you?" This is an open board and this is an open thread

Too bad, yet another JE fan launched a viscous personal attack just because somebody has a different opinion than you do. JE fans really seem to get personal and nasty pretty quickly....I think it is because they support JE on a more emotional level than intellectual. Obviously if you look at things like record, experience and judgment, JE doesn't cut it.

[kdmorris]

15. "Watch this video and tell me he's not a hypocrite?"

He's not a hypocrite.

[Inspired]

19. Why so angry? Did John pick on your girl? n/t

[madmunchie]

43. No, John is a great candidate for those that don't care about

things like RECORD, EXPERIENCE and JUDGEMENT CAPABILITIES. They seem to respond more like children than adults using reasoning and facts to back their candidate. They (you) seem to attack on a personal level, since they (you) don't have a factual basis to use to argue on.

[oasis]

24. Richardson kicked Edwards' rear end for attacking Hillary. Bravo.

[Bluebear]

25. How was he "attacking" Hillary?

[Inspired]

28. The use of the word attack is absurd around here. n/t

[Bluebear]

29. You'd think he mugged her. nt

[sniffa]

32. odd

i thought she pLayed the roLe of jodie foster in the accused and the rest of the dem candidates pLayed the white trash guys around the pinbaLL machine.

edit: richardson pLayed the guy who got the high score on the arcade game.

[oasis]

31. Bill Richardson believes so, and so do I. Bill witnessed the hatchet job in person.

And he isn't stricken with Edwards' southern charm.

[Inspired]

34. Was Richardson really Hillary's hero?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3681777

Really? Maybe he was more sly about it but what did Edwards or Obama say that he didn't at the debate?

[progressoid]

37. Yaaaawn.

[FuJun]

38. Worse than than...

Edwards is living a life of hypocrisy.

[creeksneakers2]

39. Excellent example!

John Edwards is a phony. He'll say whatever it takes to get elected. Hillary is in his way so he'll slime her for stuff he does himself. So much for the positive approach he pretended to have in the video you linked to.

[SaveElmer]

40. Edwards a hypocrite? I'm shocked I tell you...SHOCKED!!!

His entire campaign is based on it...