I have this awful feeling Cheney will be the next POTUS. The worse the geo political scene gets,

[CK_John]

the more I feel the powers behind the scene will send * to the showers and bring in Cheney. Sometime between now and their convention, Bush will quit.

[dugggy]

1. What a fucking nightmare that would be n/t

[truth2power]

32. A nightmare?? Nah!...

First of all, I don't think the PTB would throw the little guy under the bus. He's doing a great job for THEM...war, chaos, disaster capitalism, $$$$. Read Naomi Klein.

As to Cheney...he doesn't have the charisma that Bush has. In terms of the brain-dead base, that is. I think some of the Repug women are sexually attracted to Bush. Hard to envision that scenario with Darth.

I know, I know....now I gotta take a shower. Ugh!! :puke:

[CK_John]

34. You seem to be talking about a campaign, I'm talking about succession. n/t

[truth2power]

36. No I'm not...

Let's say Bush quit tomorrow and Cheney became President (I mean officially). He's not likeable. The 26% wouldn't support him like they do Bush. Like somebody said, downthread, about Bush being the person his base would like to have a beer with. Nobody wants to have a beer with Cheney.

Sure, Bush throws red meat to the Fundies in terms of the so-called "family values" issues, but it's also about charisma. Don't get me wrong...I'm revolted by the both of them, but I think Bush speaks to something primal with these people.

If Cheney were the public face, instead of doing his dirty work behind the scenes...given his demeanor and voice? Umm..I don't think so.

[CK_John]

37. So what, he would still be POTUS and could pardon * and everybody else. n/t

[truth2power]

44. Bush would pardon the same people Cheney would pardon, IMO..

It's incestuous.

[dugggy]

38. And no one would want to go on a hunting trip with Darth

and hunting trips are the ultimate bonding experience for males.

[rasputin1952]

41. "charisma"?????

bush has as much charisma as a rock.

[truth2power]

43. Yes, in the real world

Bush has the charisma of a rock. But we're not talking about "real world" here.

I don't seem to be communicating my point very well. I can't stand to watch him because I know what psychopathy looks like, and I see it in him,(among other things) and it turns my stomach. He should be in a restricted environment, not running around with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

That being said, I have asked myself what in holy hell the 28% see in him. I don't think it can be reduced to one single factor, but I think he holds some sort of fascination for them .

Bush is the public face of the evil that infests our government. If Cheney were made President, by whatever means, he would be the public face of the evil. As such, it's just my sense that he wouldn't engender the same loyalty.

[rasputin1952]

45. I have no idea what 28% support him either, unless they too

are psycopaths...:shrug:

I get nauseous when I see/hear the clod as well...as for cheney, he simply exudes evil, it drips from him...x(
I cannot understand why either of them have any support at all, (cheney is at 16%).

Just shows me that there are some people out there that would vote for/support satan's flatulence if they thought they could "gain" from such support. For all of the "morality" his supporters claim faith to, it is the very immorality of these people that scare the hell out of the rest of us with some sense...:scared:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Bush will never quit. He thinks everything is going well and he's doing a heckuva job.

The "powers that be" will never convince him otherwise, either.

[aquart]

3. You are being amazingly silly

On so many levels.

[ginchinchili]

4. No, Bush won't quit. That you can be assured of.

He has a pattern to support that. If he's nothing he's dogged. He won't quit. His ego is just one of the reasons. Cheney will live out the rest of his short life a hateful, ultra-conservative, hateful, millionaire destined to be remembered as the most powerful and most destructive Vice-President in our nation's history. He'll be leaving a miserable legacy.

[cali]

10. i think you're reading bush all wrong

i think he'll be relieved to get out and dump the the mess he's made on the next prez you're also wrong about his not quitting things. He has a history of doing just that, when not being propped up b his poweful family and their powerful friends.

[CK_John]

11. self delete misread response. n/t

[ginchinchili]

12. No. Anyone understanding Bush will agree with me.

Bush is stubborn and egotistical. There is no chance of him stepping down. It's odd that you would suggest otherwise since I'm only stating the obvious.

[cali]

17. LOL!

your post is worhty of a Duzy! And try and learn the difference between fact and opinion. try noting how I phrased my post. And sorry, there are plenty of people who don't agree with you- including many pundits- for whatever that's worth.

Clue: bush will be gone on January 20th, 2009.

Put down the pipe.

[ginchinchili]

21. Well, duh. When he's gone 1/20/09 it will be because his term is up.

Not because he's stepping down due to some inability to handle the pressure. I'm not quite sure what "worhty of a Duzy" means, but perhaps whatever it means you should apply it to yourself. I'm confident enough to place a wager on the position that Bush will remain in office until his term expires (impeachment not withstanding). Care to take me up on it? Let's try something more practical, give us a link to one of your "many pundits" who think Bush will quit his presidency before his term expires. You say there are many, I'm asking for just one.

[CK_John]

22. I'm a pundit of 1 and I'm not part of the scratch off generation and the bull sessions

at the local diner is my sounding board.

[ginchinchili]

24. Excuse me, a CREDIBLE pundit.

[Golden Raisin]

25. You needn't worry about impeachment.

Bush could strangle newborn babies and drink their blood on live TV and that would not be sufficient for Pelosi and Co. to do anything.

[ginchinchili]

39. I'm afraid you're right.

My support for Pelosi is quickly fading and that one of the big reasons, but not the only one. Bush continues to stick it to the Democrats every opportunity he gets, but the Democrats refuse to even start investigation proceedings on Bush/Cheney. I must say, I just don't get it.

[LakeSamish706]

5. I think that Cheney is calling the shots now anyway... (when not nodding off that is)...

So I don't think that your fears could get much worse anyway.... The bigger fear that I have is that one of these Repug. candidates.... (should they figure out a way to steal 08) would nominate Cheney as there running mate... Holly sheep shit, that would be Devastating indeed.

[JerseygirlCT]

9. I agree

I don't think they'd ever let Cheney in. They know he's hated. They'd want to get him gone, too and replace both with someone "likeable". (Remember all the talk about Bush and what a great guy he is to have a beer with? That sort of nonsense).

Cheney knows he's in his best possible spot as the guy with his hand up Bush's butt, manipulating the puppet.

[CyberPieHole]

6. Bite your tongue!

I thought Halloween was over? That would be a real HORROR!:yoiks:

[Rick Myers]

7. Yikes!

:spray:

[ClassWarrior]

8. Good. Maybe that's all HR333 needs to get it kick-started.

NGU.

[sniffa]

13. nah, but he may be the VP

of which party, who can say.

[CK_John]

14. He is VP and before the election, if * quits, he will be POTUS. n/t

[sniffa]

16. true, but he stiLL may be VP again

of which party, who knows?

[femmocrat]

15. I wouldn't put anything past those evil bast*rds.

:scared:

[NewHampster]

18. Canada here I come

[CoffeeCat]

19. Interesting....

I find your theory interesting, and it could have some merit.

After all, the neocons/PNACers are the ones steering the ship. They
selected George to be their "electable" yip dog who could jump through
the hoops and get the American people to like him.

George Bush was never a PNACer. He never signed off on any of the famous
PNAC letters. There's a whole list of PNACers, including Jeb Bush--but
George was never in the club.

My guess is that his petulance and failures left him cast aside and out
of the big-boy clubs. However, when they needed a pretty face on their
ugly agenda---they knew that Georgie would be the boy that American would
want to have a beer with.

I believe he's served them well. However, I don't believe that he calls
the shots. Not at all. There are Republican stalwart neocons who control
it all. George Schulz, Poppy, Kissinger, Cheney etc. Junior is just a puppet.

I also believe that he's expendable. I think the neocon wet dream is to have
Cheney as pResident.

I wouldn't put anything past these thugs.

[CK_John]

20. You put that much better than I did. n/t

[Cass]

23. Hey now, that is some scary stuff you're peddling.

I hope with every fiber of my being that you are wrong.

:scared:

[CK_John]

28. I also think that Lynn Cheney will be Mitt's VP pick. n/t

[calteacherguy]

26. Dude...Step. Away. From. The. Bong. nt

[onenote]

27. Have a cup of tea, get some rest.

And your awful feeling will go away, cause it has not basis in reality.

[ShortnFiery]

30. "not basis in reality" Yes! Rest assured - regarding functionality - Cheney already IS

The Supreme POTUS! :evilgrin: <tongue-in-cheek tease!>

[ecstatic]

29. only as half human/ half machine

Do we have the technology for that yet? Otherwise, Cheney is not physically healthy enough to take on such a position.

[CK_John]

31. Even if Cheney is POTUS for a couple of months, he would get some

perks of the office that would be very value to the neocon movement. Like the insider briefings, 10 yr SS protection, access to CIA,NSA, etc. And another pension and the best medical care for free. (batteries included).

[kentuck]

33. Sometimes it is our worst fears...

that are realized. The neo-cons love Cheney.

[CK_John]

35. Even when we win in Nov 08, I think * will step aside and Cheney will then do a Ford type pardon.n/t

[Perry Logan]

40. Prediction: George W. Bush will commit suicide before his term expires. You heard it here first.

[ldf]

42. commit suicide?

or be suicided?

:shrug: