Who has CREDIBLE FACTS concerning Clinton's ability to release papers?

[ruggerson]

Can Bill Clinton just sign a letter releasing everything pertaining to Hillary?

Is he bound by an actual statute not to release them until 2012?

Is Hillary herself bound by any law regarding her husband's presidential papers?

I don't want OPINIONS in this thread, only hard, cold facts, backed up by offcial citations (not what someone wrote on a blog).

I'm interested in knowing the unvarnished truth on this, and I imagine others are as well.

Who's telling the truth here?

[msongs]

1. evidently various spinmeisters are caught short here on this issue :-) nt

[ruggerson]

2. Who would have guessed?

:)

[mzteris]

3. here -

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/124945.asp

[ruggerson]

4. Thanks but

that doesn't really tell me anything.

[papau]

5. Interesting RW posts to that article - in any case Clinton's letter is 7 years old n/t

[elfin]

6. Admittedly subjective -- BUT if Hillary wants it - Bill

does it. That's the deal she most likely struck in the Lewinsky aftermath and he will go along until the election.

After that -- he is a former Pres. and she is a Pres. Wannabe -- it will all come out and will not make her look good as the General Electorate will discern without the disclosure.

If it makes her look wise and "Presidential" -- it would be out Pronto.

I predict a "limited hangout" in the most favorable terms before November -- all bets are off after that.

[aquart]

7. "Most likely"?

You don't know a thing about what goes on between them. Not one thing.

[elfin]

9. But "subjectively" I can "surmise"

along with others of my generation (geezer) as to the workings of their mutually advantageous partnership.

Yes, there is "love" and parenthood and also the give and take of a long term relationship and the paybacks ensued along the way - incurred mostly by him.

Theirs is the stuff of history along with mutual respect of each other's unique abilities. Unfortunately for her -- she is the "A" student without the style and creative gestalt of the whole -- which he had and used her to fill in the pertinent particulars to cherry pick for his detailed arguments to sway the Public while he eloquently stated his positon.

[Didereaux]

8. Here MAY be the reason Clintons do NOT want the papers released...and it is legit

Although the Clintons have the first say so on what and when the papers are released, according to the 'Bush' directive those papers then must clear the Whitehouse vetting. Now lets suppose that some information in the Clinton papers might be construed as 'useful' for a political attack on them: particularly if they are used out of context and added to re-dacted Bush papers. Now the public cannot see the rest of the Bush papers so they 'see' only the Clinton papers and the snippets Bush&Co add on.

Do you now see a reason for someones reticense to speed up the process? I thought so. I found that little piece of info in some back page piece either in the NYT WaPo or possibly on of the main broadcast on-lines. Anyway it was a mainline source and not some agenda blog.

The Whitehouse has that final say so fro 'Security' reasons, wouldn't want enemies of the State to get hold of any info now would we?

it all stinks, top to bottom.

[BootinUp]

10. PRA of 1978

http://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html

Specifically, the Presidential Records Act:

* Defines and states public ownership of the records.
* Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
* Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once he has obtained the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal.
* Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
* Establishes a process for restriction and public access to these records. Specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years. The PRA also establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain special access to records that remain closed to the public, following a thirty-day notice period to the former and current Presidents..
* Requires that Vice-Presidential records are to be treated in the same way as Presidential records.


Executive Order 13233 - Further Implementation of the Presidential Records Act

http://www.archives.gov/about/laws/appendix/13233.html

Have fun, I don't have time to go through this legal maze today.

[ruggerson]

12. thank you

this will be some interesting reading

[MadMaddie]

11. Remember that * created the law not to release the papers of

previous Presidents because he was protecting his father? Well, the dumbass inadvertanly protected the Clintons and all other WH residents.

dumbass...

[Bitwit1234]

13. I had the website I posted it and I also posted part of the evidence

on the archives website. I printed the Executive Order Number bush issued also and I remember it EO 13,233. Look it up... But it won't do any good. Because no matter what is in offical print no matter what the government bill says and bush's executive order says. Obama's people will still piss and moan about releasing the papers. They don't want to know the truth because then they can't post lies. I am going back to get the exact website and post it on an original post and then that will end the crap, except those that don't want to know.

[jmp]

14. Did Hillary say or imply that Bush wouldn't allow the release of the documents?

I don't think so. In fact, that's about the ONLY excuse she didn't give for not releasing them. :eyes: