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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:06 AM Original message |
There Is No Crisis (Social Security) |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. Kick! |
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CK_John (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Right out of Rove's playbook, create a faux problem and then pretend to solve it and blame us. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. So is John Kerry lying? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Strengthening Social Security |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It needs fixing |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:17 AM Original message |
I agree with you on the characterization of Hillary's plan. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. That is a good point |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. That is completely wrong |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Delete dupe. n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. Paul Krugman: Obama and Social Security |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Krugman failed to his facts straight on Obama's position |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Bush gave our surplus to the wealthy |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. A good point. The money has been spent, and must be returned to the Social Security coffers. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. And Obama wants to take it from the middle class and uses rw talking points |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Total fiction, cuke! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That is not helpful! |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Nice try, but he never said there was a crisis. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. This isn't a game. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No, it's not a game--unless you are the corrupt corporate media who live to distort. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
14. Depends on what the meaning of "crisis" is. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "If the reichwingers want to hand us a faux social security crisis...why not run with it?" |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. So we just stick with the status quo instead of moving forward? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So it's either pretend there is a crisis or stick with the status quo? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You do realize that your second link is EXACTLY what I have been saying? n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Everything in that response is the basis for the OP, which is: |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. SS cannot fully fund retirement, and was never meant to |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
15. OP: "The Trustee's projections show that the Social Security Fund will be exhausted in 2041..." |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. K & R -- Social Security reform sure has been bubbling again on DU. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Amen, shout it from all the hilltops |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
26. Social Security is FINE. Fully funded for longer than any other entitlement. |
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Outback Bob (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office: "the excess disappears in 2017". Hmmmm. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's stated in the OP. Here: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Social Security is "welfare"? |
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