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phen43 (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:19 AM Original message |
Who else here thinks the polls are inaccurate? |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think any poll can come out any way the pollster wants it to. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. I just saw an online |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think the only way to determine the accuracy of polls is to post a poll about polls. n/t |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Oooooo...you are so bad! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. I think we'll have to post a poll about that. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
4. What would the correct sample size if you wanted a margin of error of 3%? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Voila |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. Does anyone else here proudly not understand basic statistics? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
37. Many |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, and I'll tell you why. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. They are aware of that, |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. No way...another poll junkie? Welcome to DU! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. oh, well |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. So they say. To me, that just expands the squishiness factor. nt |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. They make allowances for cell phone only users. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think they reflect the organization that is paying for them. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. First, HRC has voted with the Dems 95% of the time (97 in the 110th), |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Wow, thanks for that. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
12. The results of the polls are so simlar, I have fath in the polls. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. I don't think that any poll that includes fewer than 2500 people |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. What on Earth makes you think |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. What "random"? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. They build their likely-voter lists |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Polling companies tell their clients what they want to hear |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. But the problem is, every week we get polls of that size. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. Well one group of candidate supporters like it when it gives |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. why do you say this, because Hillary is kicking your guy's ass?nt |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
23. Polls are easily manipulated. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The sample size is adequate. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Even when I worked at Neilsen Media Research |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Well, yeah, they're pushed to use the smallest sample possible |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Polls hyped by the msm are meant to manipulate people... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. people with candidates not named Clinton. nt. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. You should have made this a poll. |
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solara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think that reality itself is inaccurate...does that count? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. So you think every poll has been rigged? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. Who else here thinks the polls are inaccurate? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. We all should, they all have a "margin of error" |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
36. Take a course in statistics if you don't believe in polls. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. The people whose candidates aren't winning |
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V4Edwards (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. The polls are statistically accurate, but . . . |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. The ones that show Bush is unpopular? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. A few primers on basic statistics |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Grief Process Diagnosis: |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. . |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I'm guessing you're in Stage 2. |
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