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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 04:50 PM
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Could you please give me clarification on the Stark apology?
1. WHAT is censure? Is it ONLY removing remarks from the record, or does it have other repercussions?

2. WHO initiated the move to censure?

3. WHO were the 5 Dems who voted in favor of it?


Thanks - I really do appreciate your help in understanding this! :hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 04:54 PM
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1. Here's a good explanation by Howie Klein at Down with Tyranny
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:01 PM
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2. i have to wonder about the firedoglake commentary
if he was threated by democrats that it would pass if he didnt apologize, why would they vote first, the censure fail, and then he apologize.

instead of rubbing it in it seems like he just wanted to say afterward. '(hey psycho repugs) sorry if it got your panties in a wad, lets move on'
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:19 PM
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6. Thank you! I'm still trying to learn exactly what "censure" is, though. Any input? nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:33 PM
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7. Here you go. plus a dictionary link.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/censure

cen·sure /ˈsɛnʃər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -sured, -sur·ing.

–noun 1. strong or vehement expression of disapproval: The newspapers were unanimous in their censure of the tax proposal.

2. an official reprimand, as by a legislative body of one of its members.

–verb (used with object) 3. to criticize or reproach in a harsh or vehement manner: She is more to be pitied than censured.

–verb (used without object) 4. to give censure, adverse criticism, disapproval, or blame.


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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:04 PM
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3. boehner initiated it-
I'm outraged by this entire hypocricy-

this government is a sham- all of it.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:06 PM
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4. one of the commenter's on the site said they would not give to
the dnc until they get some backbone...the dnc has nothing to do with these awful repug-dems..it is the dccc and the dlc...the dnc were going after the progressive candidates to run and that is why the dlc'er are pissed with Dean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:09 PM
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5. The DNC is really suffering because of congress.
And Dean has nothing to do with Congress. People either are withholding money on purpose to hurt that group, or they really don't understand or care.
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