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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:03 PM
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Arrogance of Dem Leadership on protecting telecom amnesty, warrantless surveillance
Glenn Greenwald
Friday October 19, 2007 09:18 EST
Harry Reid works to ensure telecom amnesty, warrantless surveillance
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/19/reid/index.html

I wrote about many of yesterday's developments concerning telecom amnesty and warrantless surveillance in this morning's post, but I want separately to highlight one critical fact. Citing various media reports, Jane Hamsher last night noted that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid -- in violation of all Senate customs and rules -- apparently intends, in essence, simply to ignore the "hold" placed on the FISA bill by Chris Dodd and bring the bill to the floor for a vote (and certain passage).

I was somewhat skeptical of that interpretation. The one "principle" which all Senators share is the sacred holiness of their customs and institutional prerogatives. As Jane notes, Reid has never dishonored a "hold" before from his own caucus, and virtually never dishonors "holds" even when placed by the most far-right Republicans Senators. It seemed inconceivable that he would simply refuse to recognize a "hold" by one of the Senate's most senior members on a bill of this importance, and the media accounts seemed vague on that score.

As a result, I emailed Reid's office to ask if they actually intended to override and ignore Dodd's "hold" and this is the patronizing (though crystal clear) dismissal I received back as a "response" from Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley:

Reid will work with Dodd and other Senators to correct the deep flaws in the Protect America Act.

Clearly, Reid has nothing but contempt for Dodd's principled stand, which was generated by (and in response to) the actions of tens of thousands of Americans concerned about our constitutional liberties and the rule of law. Reid is dismissively brushing that all to the side -- as usual -- to ensure the safe and smooth passage of a Draconian bill jointly demanded by the Bush administration, the telecom industry, and their lobbyists.

There is a reason that the Democratic Congress has been as accommodating to the Bush agenda, if not more so, than even the GOP Congress led by Bill Frist and Denny Hastert. It is because that is what their leadership, repeatedly, chooses to do. Dodd needs to demonstrate that yesterday was not a one-time event by demanding that his "hold" be honored, and the other Democratic candidates, as well as others in the Senate who claim to want to stop this bill, ought to do more than issue empty, right-worded statements and stand with Dodd to block this bill by any means available.

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In comments, Jim White provides the telephone number for Reid's office to enable those who are inclined to call and share with them your views of Reid's behavior: (202) 224-3542.

UPDATE: The massive amounts of telecom cash that have suddenly flowed to Jay Rockefeller this year is discussed in the post below, but as Brendan Skwire notes, AT&T is also in the top 20 contributors to Harry Reid.

Then again, AT&T is the second largest contributor overall to officials in Congress, having poured into the Beltway a total of $38 million in campaign contributions for the election cycles for which these records are available. Verizon is in 33rd place with over $15 million; BellSouth in 39th place with with over $14 million; Time Warner in 28th place with $17 million; and MCI in 83rd place with $8 million. The Communications Workers of America, which lobbies for all sorts of pro-telecom legislation, is in 13th place with close to $25 million.

That's $118 million of telecom money poured into the coffers of members of Congress, and the real total is much higher since this is only from the top 100. And now Congress, on a more or less bipartisan basis, is passing a law declaring that this industry shall be completely immune from any consequences even if they are found to have broken multiple federal laws in allowing illegal spying on all of their customers.

I don't want to insinuate that complete travesties like telecom amnesty happen exclusively or even primarily because of campaign contributions and the influence of lobbyists (the fees for whom are not counted in these totals and undoubtedly vastly exceed the totals of mere contributions). Contributions and the like are obviously significant factors, but the real problem here is much deeper, more problematic and more fundamental -- it goes to the decayed and rotted roots of our political culture. Atrios identifies the real crux of it here.http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_10_14_archive.html#4662258171579564121
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ACLU Blog
Thursday, October 18, 2007
FISA Train Speeds Off the Tracks
http://blog.aclu.org/index.php?/archives/313-FISA-Train-Speeds-Off-the-Tracks.html

Yesterday the FISA train came off the rails in a big way — oddly enough, right as the House was taking up railroad safety. After beginning a debate in the morning, then breaking for a short recess, the Republicans offered a particularly nasty motion to recommit (or MTR, which sends the bill back to committee for further discussion) that, through its specific wording, would have killed the Democrats' RESTORE bill right then and there. Rather than risk it, the Dems took their bill and went home.

It looks like Democratic leadership is getting squeezed from the left and the right. On the left, members are hesitant to give the administration warrantless wiretapping of Americans. Hopefully they will finally consider Congressman Rush Holt's (D-RI) simple, one-paragraph fix that will that will put the RESTORE Act back in line with the Fourth Amendment and make sure Americans get individualized warrants when they are tapped on US soil — no excuses, and no semantics about who's really the target (as if that really matters when the government is listening to your phone calls).

On the right, Motions to Recommit are the minority's right — a last ditch amendment offered on the floor right before the final vote. As currently worded, the MTR on the FISA would send the bill back to committee to consider language basically saying that nothing in the bill can prevent the government for spying in the name of terrorism. The silly thing is that before the Dems took the majority, MTRs were no big deal, and were voted down by the Republicans 99 percent of the time. They continue to plague this Dem Congress, which just can't seem to keep its most conservative members in check.

There are pretty solid rumors that telecom immunity is already in the Senate bill. And, frankly, if the language is anything like the past attempts we’ve seen, it’s a little too broad for our taste. Instead of singling out the telecoms, it allows immunity to be granted to anyone alleged to have cooperated in the warrantless wiretapping program. Doesn’t that include Mike McConnell? Alberto Gonzales? Vice President Cheney? President Bush? The Senate needs to make sure that what they allow to be in the bill doesn’t have unintended consequences. When it comes to giving out get-out-of-jail-free cards, shouldn’t we make the process a little more stringent than effectively flyering Pennsylvania Avenue?

Quick update — As of 3 PM today, Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) has put a hold on the Senate bill. Of course we’ll be keeping a close watch on this. We’ll be asking for your help, too, so watch your inboxes.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:08 PM
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1. K&R - too pissed to post. nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:32 PM
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13. same here - Dem's approval of amnesty is a deal breaker for me
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:15 PM
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2. K&R - also too pissed to post. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:19 PM
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3. REC
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:19 PM
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4. SEND REID a memo
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:24 PM
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5. Thank you, Sen. Dodd, for at least trying.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 02:24 PM by rocknation
Even if it doesn't succeed, at least you've proven where your--and our--priorities need to be. CUE THE VONAGE THEME! And that's all I ask of you Dems--do the right thing because IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

:headbang:
rocknation
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 02:34 PM
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12. The beauty is in its simplicity.
"do the right thing because IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO."

Why do they MAKE it so hard?



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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:44 PM
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6. Rockefeller, who has more money than God, got a ton of dough
from the companies to shill for them. Check out www.huffingtonpost.com
for the story.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:35 PM
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14. I hope that this isn't true?
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 02:56 PM
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7. K&R
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:23 PM
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8. K&R
I'm so very tired of being sad and angry at the same time.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 11:15 AM
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11. I'm used to it n/t
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 03:27 PM
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9. I can't even make myself type the words.
None of it matters anymore.

TC

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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 04:28 PM
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10. That's a scary scenario...
that your sig line picture shows.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 04:42 PM
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15. Have the Dems pondered the concept of digging in their heels?
After viewing a recent interview of Nancy Pelosi by Tavis Smiley, I am convinced the Democratic leadership really believes not rocking the boat at all costs, and I do mean all costs, is the way to win in 2008. But who are they pandering to with that philosophy? Certainly not the voters that put them there. They are presumptuously assuming not doing what they were elected do will somehow be magically smoothed over by November 2008.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 12:12 PM
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16. It seems like...
when they take their offices up there on Capitol Hill they also take an anti-reality oath. Where no matter how they vote or whatever promises they make will all be forgotten by the time the next election rolls around.
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