Donnie McClurkin: We must pull down and destroy homosexuality.

[denem]

Read Pastor Donnie McClurkin for yourself:

http://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/music/A_Pastors_Heart/9781/p1/

"You can't talk about the redeeming and saving power of Jesus Christ when you're still living in the abominable. I know I may get into trouble with some who may think that I am a little too strong saying that homosexuality is abominable but there's a Bible that I have got to concur with. I've got to agree with it. Not to the slighting of those that are involved but to the pulling down and destroying of the thing that they're involved in. We can't kill the people, the people are too precious to God. Everyone is too important to God and God does not dispose of people!"

"We do it with the drug addict! We do it with the alcoholic! So why can we not do it with those who have sexual differences? Pull them in, embrace them, love them. Give them the truth of God with the love of God and watch people's lives change. I see it happen all the time. I've got people in the church that I'm still working with who are young and old. They'll say, 'Pastor, it's been a whole month, nothing's happened!' And I tell them it's good and to not even worry about counting the days, take one day at a time. Love God, every day fall more in love with God and you'll find these things falling off of you. And that's how we do it, we do it one day at a time and increase our intimacy with Jesus Christ and we see him change our nature, realigning our passions."

[rox63]

1. Are they going to the same to people who eat pork?

Leviticus says that's an abomination too. :shrug:

[TechBear_Seattle]

4. Catfish, shrimp, clams, oysters as well

If it is an animal from the water and does not have both scales and fins, it is an abomination. Oh, and clothes of mixed fibers (cotton-linen and cotton-wool blends) are also abominations.

I mean, if the Bible is the inerrant, literal and eternal Word of God, certainly ALL of the Bible must be obeyed. Right?

(Edited for grammar.)

[BOSSHOG]

17. They'll get my Catfish

when they pry the filets from my cold dead hands. The bible belongs to christians and they have been told to pick and choose in the book those passages which justify their hate and ignore those which might make their lives uncomfortable. Evil liberals would never understand.

[youthere]

19. you can HAVE my catfish.

It's one fish I just can't seem to develop a taste for.

[BOSSHOG]

22. It certainly

is an acquired taste. Not too long ago it was referred to as the trash fish spending its time in the bottom waters eating mud. Farm raised catfish is quite a delicacy in the south.

[AndyTiedye]

29. Try that Catfish Cajun Style

[AndyTiedye]

41. We Had Cajun-Style Catfish for Dinner Tonight

[AndyTiedye]

30. If You All Don't Want all that Lobster, Crab, Clams, Mussels, and Oysters

that's OK, it leaves more for me! :evilgrin:

[NMMNG]

33. BAN RED LOBSTER NOW!1!1

It is an abomination. Won't somebody please think of the children?!?! :cry:

[BushOut06]

5. Has he ever stoned any of his children to death?

If any of his kids ever talked back to him, or disobeyed him, then he should have stoned them to death. It's God's law.

[Gravel2008]

47. Leviticus applies only to the Jews

We'd be a whole lot better off if people would get that through their heads.

[sniffa]

2. YOU JUST HATE OBAMA

YOU'VE ALWAYS HATED HIM AND YOU HAVE NO CRED YOU OBAMA HATER!!!1!















k&r

[begin_within]

3. My sex life is a gift from God.

I'm not going to let some two-bit pastor take it away.

[poverlay]

10. Does that mean I'm going to hell if I don't get some today? Even if only from myself? n/t

[begin_within]

14. A gift is best when shared.

[poverlay]

36. I have no problem with that....n/t

[zabet]

6. ....

Donnie McClurkin needs to have a public debate with
a leader of the Satanists Churchs, an atheist leader,
a Buddhist, a Muslim leader, etc, etc.
Let religions debate in their forum and stay out of
politics.

McClurkin needs to remember...Judge not..<----that IS
in the Bible.

[rocktivity]

7. Is Obama still running with this guy?

:shrug:
rocknation

[denem]

12. Unfortunately believe Obama knows exactly what he's doing.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

15. Yep, he's his running mate as far as some people on DU are concerned

None of whom appear to even be bothering to wait and see how he responds to the situation.

[terrya]

8. "Destroy homosexuality"

Homosexuality is just as natural as heterosexuality. That precept is so common sense, so inherently right that I don't understand why some have to feel the need to "destroy" it.

People like this person are sad. Such hate in them.

[mzteris]

9. how did I know this guy was a closet case?

"a former homosexual" -

yeah. right. sure.

Fight those "demons" Donnie boy. . .

[Vanje]

23. Donnie is CURED!

He used to get wood for dudes.
Now he gets wood for Jesus.

(And now he gets paid for it.)

[msongs]

11. it's all about generating $$$$, lots of money for this guy's greed quota nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. George Bush: "...Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa

And four Democratic Presidential contenders who were in the Senate at the time voted to authorize him to go to war: Biden, Clinton, Dodd, and Edwards.

4000 dead soldiers, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians, billions of wasted dollars, and a march to war on Iran later you are focusing on the poor choice of a fucking gospel singer by the one person who spoke out against the war (and was 100% right) before it was popular to do so.

A fucking gospel singer.

This will be used as evidence of his 'poor judgement'.

Unbelievable.

[Bluebear]

16. Obama can be the one who spoke against the war AND refuses to appear with homophobes.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

24. Well how about waiting to see if he does just that?

Honestly, is this is the worst thing people can find to slam Obama for right now? This is nothing but bullshit blown out of proportion to fuel the bullshit "Obama lacks experience" canard. Barack Obama has spoken (and voted) in favor of gay rights his entire career.

[Bluebear]

26. The point is, is he willing to pander to the gospel community & abandon the gay community?

"bullshit blown out of proportion" is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. :(

[Vanje]

31. Could'nt he find a gospel singer that DOSNT call for the extinction of gays?

Somewhere?
There must be one somewhere.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. The 'gospel community' is monolithically homophobic? Who knew?

Further, what is being blown out of proportion, IMO, is not McClucker (or whatever) and his foul views, it's the condemnation of Obama before all the facts are in. This joker is being turned into Obama's best bud, trusted advisor, and running mate if you believe some of the posts on DU. For all we know, Obama barely knows the guy and wasn't aware of his statements on homosexuality. (OTOH, if he was fully aware and had him perform anyway, then he's got some 'splaining to do.)

[Jack109]

43. If Obama didn't know,

he should have. McClurkin's views have been well documented. He's been preaching his anti-gay nonsense for years and the even wrote a book about it in 2001. Lack of knowledge in this case is just not believable.

[eridani]

49. The "one" person?

I believe that Kucinich was actually in a position to not only vote against the IWR, but to get a majority of House Dems to do the same.

[CoffeeCat]

18. I can't wait until Pastor Donnie rips into the fashion industry!

The Bible specifically says (Deuteronomy 22 verse 11)--"Thou shalt not wear a garment of diverse sorts, as of woolen and linen together".

Pastor Donnie says he has a Bible that he has "to agree with" and he uses this Bible to justify his ill-informed bigotry toward homosexuals.

Sooooooo....I guess if Pastor Donnie wishes to remain intellectually consistent, he will condemn everyone who wears poly-cotton-blend pants and declare that women wearing spandex-cotton blend exercise pants are "abominable." Just like he did with homosexuals.

"Attention Kmart shoppers! This is a raid! Step away from the linen-wool blend
walking shorts and no one gets hurt!"

[EST]

20. In case it isn't obvious,

this man is advocating the killing of non-heteros. He won't admit it, but how else would one "destroy" something as nebulous as sexual identity? It is not something one can gird one's loins (wonder why they'd do that, anyway) and go do battle with.

The burning of nine or ten churches in the south by wingnut college age monsters and the subsequent attempt to implicate homosexuals--saw it myself on "Hardball" via Chris Matthews--was reprehensible, yet there was little followup.

Any of those churches could well have had people in them, turning the crime of arson into the crime of murder, and all that that implies.

I am uncomfortable enough with the religious leaders advocating the murder of people they disagree with inside small groups, but these conscienceless morons have grown in influence to an alarming degree. There should be some thought toward prosecuting these people. They have no place in a democracy.

Freedom of speech does not extend to advocating violence against any member of the human community.

[Blaze Diem]

21. addicts, alcoholics, gays. Cure any mass murders lately?

Is there hope for curing, oh, say, someone who's approved of the murder of 600,000 - 700,000 innocent Iraqi babies, momas, daddys, grampas, gramas, sisters, brothers, uncles, aunts, friends, neighbors, etc.?
How bout curing someone of the habit of laughing at the tragedies and death of human beings?
How bout someone who exchanges death for dollars as emotionless as changing his socks?

What a total a-hole.

[Vanje]

25. I'm an undecided voter

But my list of possibles just got one candidate smaller.

[William769]

27. Hey Donnie McClurkin

"Those who trust in the LORD are like Mount Zion, which cannot be shaken but endures forever. As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds his people both now and forevermore."

I am a homosexual, I am also one of the LORD'S children. Good luck battling him.

[denem]

28. "We cam't kill the [homosexual] people"

has to be one of the most chilling declarations I have heard in some time. Presumably if God does not dispose of people, it's off the table for his followers. Or not.

[NMMNG]

34. Yeah, we can't kill them (like we want to)

So we just have to torture them psychologically to the extent of the law....

[BornagainDUer]

35. So what's he asking for....

an internal investigation and prosecution of the Religious Right? :shrug:

Sounds suicidal to me

[Cha]

37. Fuck you, donnie mcclurkin...you rabid

sonavabitch. All donnie needs to know is that.."he knows nothing."

[denem]

38. In Answer to a recent post

This is what McClurkin has actually said to a receptive audience.

[calteacherguy]

39. I have no problem with that. I don't agree, but I have no problem with what he is saying

He has his first ammendment rights. He's not advocating violence or discrimination against people, he's simply promoting his religion. Fine. That's his right.

[denem]

40. He is advocating curing people of homosexuality.

The "troubled" teenagers for example who are brought to church for "help. It's a recipe for misery, self harm or worse. Fully embrace Jesus Christ and he will purify your wrongful sexual feelings. If you fail, you don't love God enough .

[BootinUp]

42. Its an anti-gay agenda

and its insulting to gays and intelligent people who know that being gay is not a choice or a disease. Sure he has a right to his opinion, doesn't mean it shouldn't be opposed.

[DemFemme]

44. Rev. Harold Mayberry, who endorsed Hillary, shares Rev. McClurkin's views

Both have an "anti-gay agenda" and both should be "opposed" right?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

45. We get it already! You have 35 posts and they're all about Rev. Harold Mayberry

You've earned your days pay.

[DemFemme]

46. You might look at yourself in the mirror on that score. And you're wrong...

No pay here. Also, I have made many replies to much more polite DUers than you in other avenues of thought. Isn't stalking a poster against DU rules, btw? :hi:

[closeupready]

48. Well if you have no problem with what McClurkin is saying, SHAME ON YOU.

:mad: